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email from Charles Bibbins |
| Short Title |
email from Charles Bibbins |
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Charles Bbbina |
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#resource bibbins-source-material.htm |
| Source ID |
S769 |
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Al -
We just got home from a wonderful month-long trip to New Zealand and Australia and have been
plowing thru the accumulated e-mail messages. I was very excited to read the message you
forwarded from Roberta which gave powerful support to our assumption that Smith, Lucy and
Rev Samuel were children of Luther.
The fact that Smith's name was the same as Hannah's mother's surname is a big clue as is the
tie-in between the Perkins family and Hampton NY.
Several years ago I visited the Wyoming Co Historic Assn in Warsaw NY to try to connect the
members of our family. Among the factors I learned were:
Lucy Bibbins and her husband Rufus Morris lived in Warsaw most of their married lives and
were buried in the Warsaw Village Pioneer Cemetery where Hannah's parents are also
buried. Lucy's first child was named Luther.
In 1958 Edith Duchee wrote a letter to the Historic Assn that said in part "My mother was
Sarah Morris, daughter of Rufus and Lucy Bibbins Morris. I have written in that Lucy's
mother and father were Hannah and Luther Bibbins. I have no idea where I got the
information". This is consistent with what Roberta wrote you.
Per the History of Warsaw by Andrew Young, Warsaw was "commenced" in 1803 by Elizur
Webster of Hampton NY. It is likely he knew Luther and his father Samuel since Samuel
had been a leading citizen of Hampton from before the Rev. War until about 1809 when
Samuel died. The fact that the Perkins family lived in Hampton at that time completes
and obvious family triangle and makes it logical that Luther's 3 married children would
move to the Warsaw area.
The 1800 census for Hampton showed Luther with a wife, two young sons and 3 daughters
(although these children are not necessarily his). Luther lived in Fair Haven VT in 1809
which is adjacent to Hampton. He was not listed in the 1810 census (which may just
mean that after Hannah died he and his family moved in with a relative), and in 1820 he
lived in Salina NY (now part of Syracuse) next door to his son Rev Samuel. Samuel's
first child, Elisha, was born in Warsaw in 1823.
The fact that the Perkins were active Methodists including more than one ministers was
very interesting. Luther's father Samuel hosted a meeting in 1788 with two Methodist
circuit riders from Saratoga to help bring the church to Washington Co (which included
Hampton). Luther's son Samuel and his son Elisha became Methodist ministers.
Luther's brothers, also named Samuel and Elisha, were also Methodist ministers. Thus
the Bibbins and Perkins families had a great deal in common. This seemed to continue
in the 1850's when Smith and his family moved to Beloit WI a few years after Hannah's
brother settled there.
It is interesting, too, that Roberta could find no record of where Hannah was buried which
she suspects was in Hampton in 1809. I have found no record of the elder Samuel's death
(altho it seems to have been about 1809) nor where he was buried (altho one rumor had it
that it was in Hampton). Samuel and Hannah may well have been buried in the same
cemetery which subsequently fell into disrepair.
This all fits together very nicely. Please thank Roberta for me for sharing this valuable
information with us.
Charlie |
Linked to
Individuals: 3 |
Adney F. Bibbins
Eugene M. Bibbins
Luther Bibbins |
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