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Elizabeth Bruce

Elizabeth Bruce

Female Abt 1286 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name Elizabeth Bruce 
    Birth Abt 1286 
    Gender Female 
    Death Yes, date unknown 
    Person ID I69854  Cecilie Family
    Last Modified 2 Mar 2009 

    Father Baron Robert De Brus,   b. Jul 1243, Annandale, Dumfrieshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Mar 1304, Palestine Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 60 years) 
    Mother Countess Margaret (Marjory) Of Carrick,   b. Abt 1252, Carrick, Argyllshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 27 Oct 1292 (Age 40 years) 
    Marriage 1271  Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Family ID F30362  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family William Dishington 
    Children 
     1. Sir William Dishington
    Family ID F31483  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 2 Mar 2009 

  • Notes 
    • The following is a post to SGM, 30 Aug 1996, by Wayne Mitchell:

      From: Wayne Mitchell (mitchell AT brzn.uni-goettingen.de)
      Subject: Robert the Bruce and the Dishingtons
      Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
      Date: 1996/08/30

      In my endeavour to trace the DISHINGTON family of Scotland I have come across the following people:

      SIR WILLIAM DISHINGTON (knight) married to ELIZABETH. They lived during the reign of KING ROBERT I (ROBERT THE BRUCE).
      Their sons were:
      . JOHN DISHINGTON (lived during reign of KING ROBERT I)
      . SIR WILLIAM DISHINGTON (lived during reign of KING DAVID II)
      . His son was
      . . . . THOMAS DISHINGTON (mentioned in 1402)

      It appears that the DISHINGTON family was related to the kings of
      Scotland:

      1. The following books claim that ELIZABETH (the wife of
      WILLIAM DISHINGTON the elder) was a sister of KING ROBERT I the BRUCE:
      a.) "The Peerage of Scotland" by George Crawfurd (Edinburgh / 1716);
      b.) "The Peerage of Scotland" by ROBERT Douglas (Edinburgh / 1764);
      c.) "Angus or Forfarshire" by Alexander Warden (Dundee / 1881);
      d.) "The East Neuk of Fife" by Walter Wood (Edinburgh / 1887);
      e.) "Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae" by H. Scott (Edinburgh / Vol 7. 1915);
      f.) "ROBERT BRUCE KING of Scots" by Agnes MacKenzie (Edinburgh / 1956).
      (I must mention at this point that many other authors do
      not mention any connection between the DISHINGTONs and
      BRUCEs. As a matter of fact, they do not mention
      anything at all about ELIZABETH! They sometimes do use
      the above mentioned books as references, but neglect to
      contradict these authors in the case of ELIZABETH being
      a sister of ROBERT I, the BRUCE!)

      2. ROBERT I (the BRUCE), KING of Scotland,
      called JOHN DISHINGTON: "nepoti suo" meaning "his (the KING's) nephew".

      3. The same KING called WILLIAM DISHINGTON (the elder)
      "consanguineo nostro" (our blood relative or cousin).

      4. DAVID II (KING of Scotland) called SIR WILLIAM DISHINGTON
      (the younger): "consanguineo nostro". Dr. Athol Murray, of
      the Scottish Record Office, wrote me: ""DAVID II's charter
      to SIR WILLIAM DISHINGTON ... describes him as
      'consanguineo nostro', but this can mean 'kinsman' rather
      than an actual first cousin. ... If we interpret DAVID II's
      reference ... narrowly, this would imply that SIR WILLIAM's
      father or grandfather had married a sister of ROBERT I."

      5. ROBERT III (KING of Scotland) called THOMAS DISHINGTON:
      "dilecto nepoti nostro" (our dear nephew). According to Dr.
      Athol Murray: "Nepos can mean grandson as well as nephew,
      though I think in this case the latter is more likely.".
      According to the English "Dictionary of National Biography",
      KING ROBERT II of Scotland had a dozen or more illegitimate
      children - many of whose names are not known. I believe it
      possible that the mother of THOMAS DISHINGTON was in fact
      one of the illegitimate children of KING ROBERT III.

      I have undertaken the task of reading through all of the documents (available to me in printed books) of the above mentioned KINGs to try to determine when the used the term "nephew" and "kinsman". Other than WILLIAM WYSEMAN (whose relation to the royal familes is unknown to me) and the DISHINGTON family, I have determined that the term "kinsman" was only used in connection with an actual kinsman of the KING or a person married to a kinsman of the KING. Also the term "nephew" was only used when the person in question was truely a nephew of the KING.

      I have not been able to find ELIZABETH (the wife of WILLIAM DISHINGTON the elder) mentioned in any documents.

      I believe that the DISHINGTONs were in fact directly related to the royal family of BRUCE and Stewart in Scotland. But I do not have any proof.

      Can anyone help me in this matter?

      ------------------------------
      Wayne Mitchell

  • Sources 
    1. [S1630] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis,, 41-4 (Reliability: 3).