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Matches 551 to 600 of 11,582
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| 551 | Sir James Sandilands, 5th of Calder; married 1st (dispensation 25 July 1463) Margaret, daughter and heiress of John Kinloch of Curvie; married 2nd Margaret (married 2nd c 17 May 1509, as his 2nd wife, 4th Earl of Erroll), daughter of Andrew Kerr of Auldtounburn and Cessford, and died by 1505, having by her had three sons (James, of Cravie, ancestor of Sir James Sandilands created Lord Abercombie 12 Dec 1647, the title expiring with the death 1681 of the latter's son James; John, of Gartcarron in Lennox, died by 10 May 1521; Peter, Rector of Calder 1526, died c 4 May 1549) and two daughters (Margaret, married 1st Robert Bruce of Auchinbowie of Stirling, married 2nd the 3rd Lord Oliphant; the other daughter married William Dishington of Ardross and had issue) and by his 1st wife had [John], with a daughter (Christian, married 1st by 1498 David Hepburn of Waughton, married 2nd Andrew Anstruther of that ilk. [Burke's Peerage] | Sandilands, Sir James (I69917)
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| 552 | Sir James Sandilands, of Sandilands, Clydesdale, confirmed to him 18 Dec 1348 by his brother-in-law William, Lord Douglas, as also by the same person the lands of Calder; married by 1349, as her 2nd husband of five, Eleanor, only sister of 1st Earl of Douglas and widow of Alexander Bruce, 1st and last Earl of Carrick of the c1330 creation, and died by 1358. [Burke's Peerage] | Sandilands, Sir James (I69944)
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| 553 | Sir John Comyn, Black Comyn, d. c. 1303, Lord of Badenoch. [Magna Charta Sureties] | Comyn, Lord John II "The Black" (I54361)
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| 554 | Sir John de Keith, Marshal of Scotland; possibly father of [Sir William]. [Burke's Peerage] | Keith, Sir John (I70097)
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| 555 | Sir John Fitz Geoffrey, Justiciar of Ireland, died 23 Nov 1258, son of Geoffrey Fitz Piers, Earl of Essex, by his wife Aveline de Clare (sister of Richard). [Magna Charta Sureties] | Fitzgeoffrey, Sir John (I55628)
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| 556 | Sir John Graham, 9th Earl of Menteith in right of his wife (see Montrose, D). [Burke's Peerage] The citation in Burke's Peerage for this John refers to the lineage of the Dukes of Montrose that contains a John who I have as father of this John, and several internet sources indicate that this John is the son of a John, so I believe this relationship is correct. However there is nothing in Burke's which absolutely nails the relationship down. Many have John a descendant of Patrick, which I have with an intervening John who was living 1317 according to Burke's. However many have John the son of Patrick who married Annabella, while, according to Burke, Annabella married Patrick's father David (They had a son John who died at the Battle of Falkirk in 1289). Some have John the son of John of Abercorn which would have been a different line departing from this line up at the beginning with Peter son of William. 17 Oct 1346 - Captured at Battle of Neville's Cross--and subsequently executed by the English. | Graham, Sir John (I70146)
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| 557 | Sir John Sandilands, 4th of Calder; married Christian, 2nd daughter of James Dundas of Dundas, and died 1439, having had with an elder son John born c1431, assassinated 21 Aug 1451 for loyalty to James II by Patrick Thornton, an adherent of the Douglas's. [Burke's Peerage] Note: John's uncle James (younger son of father James) was also assassinated at the same time. | Sandilands, Sir John (I69918)
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| 558 | Sir John Stewart of Ralston (half-brother of Robert II). [Burke's Peerage] | Stewart, John , Lord Of Ralston, Sir (I70035)
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| 559 | Sir John Stirling of Edzell. [Burke's Peerage] ------------------------------------- The next proprietors of Glenesk of whom we have any knowledge are the Stirlings. It is not known whether they followed immediately after the other owners we have noticed, or if there was an intermediate proprietary race. The family whence they sprung is not certainly known, but it is probable they were of the same stock as the family of Keir, the armorial bearings of both having points in common. In what manner, or from whom, they acquired Glenesk is also unknown. Besides possessing Glenesk, Edzell, and Lethnot, they were also the proprietors of large estates in Inverness and Moray shires, and they were sometimes designed | Stirling, Baron John (I70118)
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| 560 | Sir Patrick Dunbar; fought against the English at Neville's Cross 1346 and Poitiers 1356 m Isabel youngest sister of "Black Agnes" who married his great uncle Patrick 8th Earl. [Burke's Peerage] | Dunbar, Sir Patrick (I70127)
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| 561 | Sir Patrick Hepburn, of Hailles, had a safe conduct from Richard II in 1381 to pass through England to the Holy Land; married 1st Agnes and had issue; married 2nd (dispensation granted 18 March 1376), as her 5th husband, Eleanor, only sister of 1st Earl of Douglas, and died in or after 1402. [Burke's Peerage] | Hepburn, Patrick , Laird Of Hailes (I69916)
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| 562 | Sir Reginald de Craufurd, 2nd Laird of Loudoun, 1st hereditary Sheriff of Ayr. [Burke's Peerage] | Craufurd, Sir Reginald (I70217)
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| 563 | Sir Robert de Brus, b. July 1243, d. Mar 1304, Earl of Carrick (in right of wife), Lord of Anandale; m. (1) Turnberry 1271, as her 2nd husband, Margaret (or Marjorie), Countess of Carrick, d. 1292, widow of Adam de Kilconquhar dsp 1270, daughter of Neil, Earl of Carrick, and Margaret, daughter of Walter, High Steward of Scotland. After her death he resigned his earldom in favor of his son (No. 5 Robert I of Scotland), and was summoned 1297 Lord Brus. He m. (2) Eleanor by whom he had Isabel, m. Thomas Randolph, Chamberlain of Scotland. Eleanor m. (2) Sir Richard de Waleys, and d. between 13 Apr and 8 Sep 1331. [Magna Charta Sureties] Note: Isabel can't be by Eleanor as a 2nd wife. See notes under Isabel. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- --------- Robert Bruce, son of Robert of Annandale and Cleveland, in right of his wife Earl of Carrick, which title he resigned to his son Robert (later Robert I of Scots) 27 Oct 1292. [Ancestral Roots] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ----------- 3rd Lord of Annandale; 3rd Earl of Carrick; buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, SCT III. 3. SIR ROBERT DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale, son and heir by 1st wife, born July 1243.) He did homage and had livery of his father's lands, July 1295. Having married, 1stly, in 1271, Margery, suo iure COUNTESS OF CARRICK [SCT], he was summoned cum equis et armis from 6 April 1282 to I7 August 1291, and to attend the King at Shrewsbury, 28 June 1283, by writs directed Roberto de Brus comiti de Carrik'. After his 1st wife's death, he resigned the Earldom of Carrick to his son, and they, as Robert de Brus le veil, and Robert de Brus le jeouene, Earl of Carrick, swore fealty to Edward I, 28 August 1296. He was summoned cum equis et armis from 15 May 1297 to 12 March 1300/1, and to Parliament from 24 June 1295 to 26 August 1296, and to attend the King at Salisbury 26 January 1296/7), by writs directed Roberto de Brus (only), by which summonses to Parliament he is held to have become LORD BRUS. He married, 2ndly, Alianore. He died shortly before 4 April 1304, aged 60, and was buried in the Abbey of Holm Cultram. His widow married, without licence, between 2 December 1304. and 8 February 1305/6, Sir Richard LE WALEYS, of Burgh Wallis, co. York [LORD WALEYS]. She died between 13 April and 8 September 1331. [Complete Peerage II:360, XIV:151, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] Earldom of Carrick 3. Margaret, suo jure (in her own right) Countess of Carrick, daughter and heir. She m. 1stly Adam de Kilconquhar, who thus became jure uxoris (in right of wife) Earl of Carrick. He dsp, being killed in the French Crusade of 1268 at Acre in Palestine in 1270. The Countess m, the next year 1271, at her castle of Turnberry, Robert de Bruce, who thus became jure uxoris Earl of Carrick. For this marriage, which was without the Royal consent, she had to pay a heavy fine. Her husband was son and heir of Robert de Bruce, of Annandale (one of the Competitors for the Crown of Scotland), by his 1st wife, Isabel, daughter of Gilbert (de Clare), Earl of Gloucester and Hertford. In 1278 he swore fealty, as proxy for Alexander III, for the Kingdom of Scotland, to Edward I, to which King, on 13 June 1291, he also swore fealty. He was summoned to be at Shrewsbury for the trial of David ap Griffith, 28 June 1283 (11 Edward I), by writ directed Roberto de Brus Comiti de Carrik, his name appearing as 11th and last of the earls who were then summoned. His wife, the Countess, having previously died, he, on 27 Oct 1292, resigned the Earldom of Carrick to his 1st son, though he appears still to have been styled Earl thereof. On 1 Apr 1295 he succeeded his father (who d. aged about 85), and was made Governor of Carlisle Castle. On 24 June 1295 (23 Edward I), he was summoned to Parliament (England) by writ directed Roberto de Brus, whereby he may be held to have become Lord Bruce. He was also summoned to attend the King at Salisbury, 26 Jan 1296/7 (25 Edward I). He accompanied Edward I into Scotland, and fought 28 Apr 1296, at the battle of Dunbar. To that King he again swore fealty 28 Aug 1296 at Berwick. He m. 2ndly, Eleanor. He resided latterly in England, and died there or in Palestine, 1304, before 14 June, and was buried at Holmcultram. His widow m. in 1305/6, as his 1st wife, Richard Waleys (Lord Waleys). She d. between 16 Mar and 19 Oct 1330. [Complete Peerage, III:55-56] | De Brus, Baron Robert (I69940)
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| 564 | Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk; supported David II against the Balliol faction; High Chamberlain of Scotland 1350-57 and 1363-64, Constable of Stirling Castle, Ambassador to England; had a royal charter, 1368, granting Alloa to himself and his 2nd wife in exchange for Strathgartney, subsequently a Menteith possession; married Beatrix, daughter of Sir Alexander de Lindsay and widow of Sir Archibald Douglas. [Burke's Peerage] ------------- Sir Robert Erskine of Erskine, d. 1385, High Chamberlain of Scotland. He purchased the lands of Dun in 1348. [Magna Charta Sureties] Click here for Photo of Stirling Castle (use browser back arrow to return) | Erskine Of That Ilk, Sir Robert (I70015)
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| 565 | Sir Walter Lindsay; High Justiciary of Lothian, Constable of Berwick, Scottish Ambassador to King John of England 1215; became by marriage feudal Lord of Lamberton. [Burke's Peerage] | Lindsay Of Lamberton, Sir Walter (I70202)
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| 566 | Sir William de Keith; alleged father of [Sir Robert, Sir Edward]. [Burke's Peerage] | Keith, Sir William (I70093)
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| 567 | Sir William de Lind(e)say; sat in Scots Parliament 1164; hostage for King William 1174, afterwards Justiciary, first appears as feudal Lord of Crawford but styled Baron of Luffness in Parliament... Sir William was heir of Randolph de Lindesay, a great feudal lord of Northumbria in right of his wife Ethelreda, granddaughter of Earl Gospatric. [Burke's Peerage] | Lindsay Of Luffness, Sir William (I70203)
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| 568 | Sir William Douglas, 3rd of Douglas; born 1240; died 1274, leaving [Sir William], with an elder son (Hugh, dsp by 1289) and a daughter (Willelma, married 1st William, Stn Chief of the Galbraiths; married 2nd Gilbert of Butternock (in right of his wife) and with him was probably ancestor of the Dukes of Abercorn.) [Burke's Peerage] Note on birthdate of William. Burke's does state 1240, but also states that he was born before Andrew. Many Others indicate a much earlier birthdate, so I will use 1214 taking 1240 for some kind of misprint, maybe they meant his son William who was born c1240. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------------ Copied from "Douglas Family" by Mark Freeman, freepages.genalogy.rootsweb.com/~markfreeman/douglas.html: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------------- Notes for Sir William of Douglas: "Longlegs" First son of Archibald de Douglas and father of William "le Hardi", William "Longlegs" was born circa 1200 and died in 1276. He was reported to be "of tall and goodly stature" and so by acquired his pseudonym. William married the sister of the Earl of Carrick, who in turn was the grandfather of Robert The Bruce. William's brother, Andrew de Douglas was the sire of the Morton line of Douglases. "William, the elder, inherited the estate of his father. William acquired additional lands to the family inheritance; and, by this means, becoming a tenant in chief of the crown, was considered as ranking among the barons, or, as they were then called, magnates of Scotland." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------------ http://www.scotclans.org/history/other/douglas_james.htm Sir William was a witness to a charter in 1240, and, along with Sir Andrew of Dufglas, to another charter in 1248. | Douglas, Sir William "Longlegs" (I69891)
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| 569 | Sir William Lindsay of the Byres, married Christiana, daughter of Sir William Keith, Marischal of Scotland, who brought him the territorial Barony and Castle of Dunnottar, Kincardineshire, which he afterwards exchanged with the Keiths for Struthers, Fife, allegedly stipulating that the infant eldest son and heir of Lindsay should in time of feuding within the family be sheltered in the Castle, which was thought impregnable. [Burke's Peerage] | Lindsay Of The Byres, Sir William (I70158)
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| 570 | Sir William, 5th of Douglas, called "Le Hardi" ("The Bold"); died a prisoner of the Enlish in London 1298. [Burke's Peerage] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------------- Copied from "Douglas Family" by Mark Freeman, freepages.genalogy.rootsweb.com/~markfreeman/douglas.html: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------------- " ... surnamed the 'Hardy,' from his valour and heroic deeds, fought on the patriotic side in the War of Independence. He was governor of the Castle of Berwick in 1296, when that town was besieged and taken, after a resolute defence, by Edward I. The garrison of the castle on capitulating were allowed to march out with the honours of war; but Sir William douglas was detained for some time a prisoner in one of the towers of that fortress. On regaining his liberty he rejoined the patriotic party, but fell once more into the hands of the English, and died in confinement in the Tower of York in 1302. He was the father, by a sister of the High Stewart, of Sir James Douglas." The Great Historic Families of Scotland, by James Taylor | Douglas, Sir William "Le Hardi" (I69887)
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| 571 | Sir William, feudal Lord of Lamberton; married Alice, daughter and coheir of William de Lancaster, feudal Lord of Kendal, thus acquiring the territories of Windermere, Grasmere, etc of Cumbria, England. [Burke's Peerage] | Lindsay Of Lamberton, Sir William (I70369)
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| 572 | Some Crawford family websites have Reginald as son of Swane/Sweyn, while other have him married to a daughter of Swane/Sweyn. I have chosen the latter. | Crawford, Reginald (I70222)
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| 573 | Some people have Hugh's death as 1120, and at least one other has "aft 1123". I believe that his death may have been well after 1123, otherwise Beatrice would not have divorced him, and later married William de Say. No printed source that I have indicates that Hugh married Emma de Lacy. Emma's sister Agnes certainly m. Geoffrey Talbot. | Talbot, Sir Hugh (I55344)
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| 574 | Somewhat speculative link. Was daughter of "Earl of Boulogne". | Boulogne, Petronilla De (I70979)
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| 575 | Sophia Dorothea Henriksdatter von M | Møinichen, Sophia Dorothea Henriksdatter von (I21026)
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| 576 | Suffolk, other creations: Shortly after the Norman Conquest and Earldom conbining Norfolk and Suffolk was conferred on one Ralph the Staller [Staller was a functionary of some sort in the Saxon Royal Court]. At that time, and seemingly for nearly three centuries afterwards, no distinction was made between Norfolk and Suffolk for the purpose of conferring titles based on county names, the two areas being conflated as the land of the East Angles. In any case, with Ralph's death a few years after he was created Earl the title apparently passed back into the possession of the Crown, though within another year it seems to have been conferred on Ralph's son, called Ralph de Gael from a fief he held in Britanny. The second Ralph, Earl of this somewhat shadowy creation, rebelled against William I (The Conqueror) in 1075 and was stripped of his titles and lands. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2761] ------------------------------- Ralph de Gael, 1st Earl of Norfolk, Suffolk, and Cambridge, Seigneur of Montford de Gael in Brittany. [Ancestral Roots] Note: I think Ralph was 2nd Earl of Norfolk, after his father. | De Gael, Ralph (I70901)
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| 577 | Suffolk, other creations: Shortly after the Norman Conquest and Earldom conbining Norfolk and Suffolk was conferred on one Ralph the Staller [Staller was a functionary of some sort in the Saxon Royal Court]. At that time, and seemingly for nearly three centuries afterwards, no distinction was made between Norfolk and Suffolk for the purpose of conferring titles based on county names, the two areas being conflated as the land of the East Angles. In any case, with Ralph's death a few years after he was created Earl the title apparently passed back into the possession of the Crown, though within another year it seems to have been conferred on Ralph's son, called Ralph de Gael from a fief he held in Britanny. The second Ralph, Earl of this somewhat shadowy creation, rebelled against William I (The Conqueror) in 1075 and was stripped of his titles and lands. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2761] | Of Norfolk, Earl Ralph "The Staller" (I70903)
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| 578 | Sweyn Thor's Son; feudal overlord of the district of Crawford, which was held of him by his powerful vassal William de Lindsay (ancestor of the Earls of Crawford and Balcarres); settled in Perthshire 1188-89 when he granted lands in Gowrie to the monks of Scone. [Burke's Peerage] | Of Crawford, Lord Sweyn (Swane) Thorsson (I70212)
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| 579 | Taken captive at Bouillon. | Velue, Dietrich Flamens Count Of (I70944)
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| 580 | Thanks to Curt Hofemann for pointing out this post to SGM, 13 Aug 2002, by Christopher Nash: From: Cristopher Nash (c@windsong.u-net.com) Subject: Baderon & Roese de Monmouth Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2002-08-13 18:21:53 PST W E Wightman,The Lacy Family (1966), usually reasonable, gave Roese [often 'Rose'] de Monmouth, wife of Hugh II de Lacy, as widow of Baderon de Monmouth (e.g. p. 206, citing Gilbert, Reg. Abbey St. Thos., Dublin, pp 13, 420). Keats-Rohan, citing Dugdale and H. Guillotel*, has Roese as the daughter of Baderon (s. of William fitz Baderon, s. of Baderon, s. of Caradoc de La Boussac [near Dol, Ille-et-Vilaine]) and as da. of Roesia de Clare; DD, 591-2. (The early generations of this sequence are generally accepted in Breton histories.) The latter affiliation matches that given by Altschul and others (incl Weis AR7), many of whom present Roese's mother as Rohese de Clare, da. of Gilbert fitz Richard de Clare and Adeliza de Clermont. Are we agreed that Wightman's positively in error? It would be good to know if anyone's seen the Reg. Abbey St. Thos., which Keats-Rohan and the others appear not to have consulted. Cris | De Monmouth, Badeion (I55056)
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| 581 | THE ANCESTORS OF SIMON DE MONTFORT EARL OF LEICESTER (I) Amauri de Montfort attested charters of Robert I of France in 1022, 1028, and 4 Feb 1031. He is said to have been son of a William of Hainault, who is not otherwise known. He appears to have begun the building of Montfort, described as a "castrum" which was completed by his son Simon. He is said to have m. Bertrade. The date of his death is unknown. He left two sons, Simon, his successor, and Mainer; and probably a daughter Eve who m. William Crispin. [Complete Peerage VII:Appendix D:708] Note: Leo van de Plas, citing "Les seize quartiers des Reines et Imperatrices Francaises", 1977, Jacques Saillot, takes the ancestry two more generations back at Montfort (not Hainault). | De Montfort, Seigneur Amauri (I53490)
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| 582 | THE ANCESTORS OF SIMON DE MONTFORT EARL OF LEICESTER (II) Simon de Montfort, son and heir. He is styled son of Amauri by Orderic. In 1058 he attested a charter of Henry I to St. Germain-des-Pres. About 1063 he took a leading part in persuading Duke William to recall Ralph de Tosny and Hugh de Grandmesnil from exile. On 13 Apr 1066 he was at Fecamp with William and his court, and attested an Act for the Abbey of Coulumbs. In the same year, at Meulan, Simon and his wife (unnamed) confirmed a gift by Richard FitzHerluin of certain lands in "villa sancti Hilari" to the same abbey, the said lands being part of the inheritance of Simon's wife. In 1067 Simon witnessed, in Paris, a charter of Philip I to St. Martin-des-Champs, and in 1072, with his son Amauri, attested another charter of the same king, confirming the gift to St. Magloire by "quidam miles de castro qui Montefortis vocatur Symon nomine" of the churches of St. Peter and St. Laurence situate "in eodem castro". Simon married three times. His 1st wife is said to have been Isabel, daughter of Hugh Bardoul, Seigneur of Brozes, and dame de Nogent; the name of the 2nd wife is unknown, and there is no proved issue of the 2nd marriage. By his 1st wife he had a son Amauri, who succeeded him, and a daughter Isabel or Elizabeth, who m. Ralph de Tosny. He m. 3rdly, Agnes, sister and in her issue heiress of William, 3rd Count of Evreux in Normandy, being also stepsister to Ralph de Tosny, and daughter of Richard, 2nd Count of Evreux. By her he appears to have had Richard and Simon, who, in turn succeeded their half-brother Amauri, and William (e); and he certainly had by her a son Amauri, who succeeded the last-named Simon, and a daughter Bertrade (f). Simon d. in or shortly after 1087, and was buried at Epernon. [Complete Peerage VII:Appendix D:710-1] (e) He [William] was a clerk, and attested in 1093 as William, son of Simon de Montfort. (f) She [Bertrade] m. as his 4th wife, Fulk IV, Count of Anjou. She deserted him for Philip I of France. | De Montfort, Simon I (I53409)
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| 583 | THE ANCESTORS OF SIMON DE MONTFORT EARL OF LEICESTER (III) Amauri de Montfort, 1st son and heir by 1st wife, known as "the Strong". He joined his father in attesting a charter of Philip I in 1072. He was mortally wounded in a combat with two knights when invading the lands of William de Breteuil, and dsp. c1089. [Complete Peerage VII:Appendix D:712] | De Montfort, Amaury III (I70996)
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| 584 | THE ANCESTORS OF SIMON DE MONTFORT EARL OF LEICESTER (VI) Amauri de Montfort, brother and heir [of Simon] (a). In 1098 he aided William II against his brother's castles of Montfort and Epernon. After the death of William de Breteuil in 1103, Amauri supported the claim of William's Burgundian nephew, Renaud de Grancei, to succeed to his estates against that of his Breton nephew, William de Gael. On the death sp. in 1118 of his maternal uncle, William, Count of Evreux, Amauri claimed the comte, and when Henry I denied him the inheritance led a widespread revolt, and obtained possession of Evreux. In the following year Henry besieged Evreux, but his nephew Theobald, Count of Champagne, reconciled him and Amauri, who surrendered the castle to the King and thereupon received his uncle's comte. In 1123 Amauri joined the revolt of Waleran, Count of Meulan--subsequently husband of his daughter Agnes--against Henry. Next year Amauri fought at Bourghteroulde, and was captured when fleeing from the field by William de Grandcourt, who, rather than hand over his prisoner to captivity, went into exile with him, but before the end of the year Amauri made his peace with the King, and seems to have maintained friendly relations with him during the rest of the reign. He m. 1stly, Richeude, daughter of Baldwin, Count of Hainault, from whom he separated. He m. 2ndly Agnes, niece of Stephen de Garlande, with whom he received Rochefort and Gournay-sur-Marne; her parentage is uncertain. She was probably the mother of his eldest son, Amauri, and certainly of his second son Simon, and of a daughter, Agnes (e). He d. 18 or 19 Apr, year unkown, and was buried at the Abbey of Haute-Bruyere, which he had founded. [Complete Peerage VII:Appendix D:713-4] (a) Said by both Orderic and Robert de Torigni to be the son of Simon by Agnes, sister of William Count of Evreux. (e) She, who had Gournay m. Waleran, Count of Meulan. | De Montfort, Amaury III (I53485)
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| 585 | THE ANCESTORS OF SIMON DE MONTFORT EARL OF LEICESTER (VIII) Simon de Monfort, Count of Evreux and Seigneur of Montfort, brother and heir [of Amauri] (a). Being a vassal both of the King of France and of the King of England (as Duke of Normandy), his postion was embarrassing when his two suzerains were at war in 1159. He adhered to England and handed over his castles at Rochefort, Montfort, and Epernon to Henry II, which forced Louis to make a truce by cutting his communications between Paris, Orleans, and Etampes. In 1173 Simon joined the revolt of the "young King", but was captured when the Count of Flanders took the castle of Aumale. In 1177 he attested the treaty of Ivry, and was with Henry II at Verneuil. He m. Maud, whose parentage is unknown. He d. 12 or 13 Mar 1180/1, and was buried in Evreux Cathedral. He left two sons, Amauri, who succeeded him as Count of Evreux in Normandy (b), and Simon, who succeeded him in the lordships of Montfort and Rochefort, also a daughter Bertrade (d). (a) He must have been a son of the second marriage of his father if his brother was. Moreover, Simon had Rochefort, which came through the second wife, and it was apparently from him that his sister Agnes received as dowry her mother's other lordship of Gournay-sur-Marne. (b) He m. Mabel, elder daughter and coheir of William, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. His son Amauri exchanged the Comte of Evreux for the Earldom of Gloucester, and dsp. (d) She m. Hugh, Earl of Chester. | De Montfort, Count Simon II Le Chauve Count Of Evreux (I55327)
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| 586 | The district of Moray remained for a long time separate from both the area of Scotland occupied by the Northern Picts and that of the Southern Picts, but its rulers were not strictly speaking Earls. It was finally conquered by the Scots proper in 1130 and thereafter held by the Kings of Scotland as a royal possession till 1312. In that year Thomas Randolph, whose mother was sister of Robert I the Bruce, was created Earl of Moray. He led the left wing of the Scottish army at the victory over the English of Bannockburn in 1314, having a few months before retaken Edinburgh Castle from its temporary English captors. The year after Bannockburn he was declared Guardian of the Realm in the event of the crown descending to a minor. He accordingly became Regent on Robert I's death in 1329. [Burke's Peerage] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ----------- EARLDOM OF MORAY [SCT] (I) THOMAS RANDOLPH, only son and heir of Thomas RANDOLPH of Strathdon, sometime Chamberlain of Scotland, by (-----), sister of ROBERT I [SCT], and daughter of Robert (BRUCE or BRUS), afterwards EARL OF CARRICK, was present, as Thomas Randal le fyz, with his father at Baliol's homage to Edward I at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, 26 December 1292. He rebelled with Bruce, perhaps even attending him on his secret journey to Scotland in 1306, and was taken prisoner by the English at Methven, 19 June. As Lord of Nithsdale he participated in the letter of the Scottish magnates to Philip IV of France, March 1308/9. He was created EARL OF MORAY [SCT] between 12 April and 29 October 1312. The extensive grants he received are evidence of the esteem in which he was held by, and of the services he rendered to, Robert Bruce. In March 1313/4 be made a sensational capture of Edinburgh Castle from the English, and he was in command of the left wing at the battle of Bannockburn, 24 June 1314. He attended the Parliament [SCT] at Ayr, 26 April 1315, at which, under the Act of Succession, he was named Guardian of the King or his brother should die during the minority of the heir to the throne. In Edward Bruce's invasion of Ireland, 1315-17, he took a notable part both in the actual fighting and in the raising of men; and in 1318 participated in the capture of Berwick by surprise. The following year Moray and Douglas raided the north of Yorkshire, and defeated a force raised by the Archbishop, in what was jocularly called the Chapter of Mitton. Moray's name stands second in the list of Scottish magnates who addressed the Pope in defence of Scottish independence, 6 April 1320. At the time of the ineffectual negotiations between the Scots and the disaffected Earl of Lancaster, 1321-22, Moray was acting as Lieutenant of the King of Scotland, and was at Corbridge, in Northumberland, in January 1321/2; later in the year he carried havoc into Durham and Yorks, and in the autumn fought with the King in the attack on the English near Byland, when Edward II was forced to flee, and was nearly captured in York. In May 1323 Moray was in England with an embassy which concluded a truce at York on 30 May for 13 years. Later in the year at Avignon he obtained from the Pope his long withheld concession to address Bruce as King of Scotland. In April 1325 he was appointed chief of an embassy to France, which, at Corbeil, in April 1326, concluded an alliance against England. In 1327 the short-lived truce was broken; Moray and Douglas harried Northumberland and balked the English forces under the young King Edward III. They were appointed jointly to make the arrangements for the marriage of the infant Prince David of Scotland with Joan, sister of Edward III, which was celebrated 12 July 1328 at Berwick. On the death of Bruce, 7 June 1329, under whom the Earl had been Justiciar of Scotland north of the Forth, Moray became Regent of Scotland, and so continued till his death, 20 July 1332, at Musselburgh, on his way to meet the invasion of the disinherited lords under Edward Baliol. He married Isabel, daughter of John STEWART of Bonkyll, by Margaret, daughter and heir of Sir Alexander DE BONKYLL. She was living 16 July 1351. [Complete Peerage IX:167-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] | Randolph, Thomas (I70129)
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| 587 | The first Montfort of Ile de France, invested by Hugh Capet. | De Montfort, Baron Guillaume (I53495)
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| 588 | The first of this great family that settled in England was Roger Bigod who, in the Conqueror's time, possessed six lordships in Essex and a hundred and seventeen in Suffolk, besides divers manors in Norfolk. This Roger, adhering to the party that took up arms against William Rufus in the 1st year of that monarch's reign, fortified the castle at Norwich and wasted the country around. At the accession of Henry I, being a witness of the king's laws and staunch in his interests, he obtained Framlingham in Suffolk as a gift from the crown. We find further of him that he founded in 1103, the abbey of Whetford, in Norfolk, and that he was buried there at his decease in four years after, leaving, by Adeliza his wife, dau. and co-heir of Hugh de Grentesmesnil, high steward of England, a son and heir, William Bigod, steward of the household of King Henry I. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 53, Bigod, Earls of Norfolk] ---------- Roger Bigod was one of the tight-knit group of second-rank Norman nobles who did well out of the conquest of England. Prominent in the Calvados region before 1064 as an under-tenant of Odo of Bayeux, he rose in ducal and royal service to become, but 1086, one of the leading barons in East Anglia, holding wide estates to which he added Belvoir by marriage and Framlingham by grant of Henry I. His territorial fortune was based on his service in the royal household, where he was a close adviser and agent for the first three Norman kings, and the propitious circumstances of post-Conquest politics. Much of his honour in East Anglia was carved out of lands previously belonging to the dispossessed Archbishop Stigand, his brother Aethelmar of Elham, and the disgraced Earl Ralph of Norfolk and Suffolk. Under Rufus --- if not before --- Roger was one of the king's stewards. Usually in attendance on the king, he regularly witnessed writs but was also sent out to the provinces as a justice or commissioner. Apart from a flirtation with the cause of Robert Curthose in 1088, he remained conspicuously loyal to Rufus and Henry I, for whom he continued to act as steward and to witness charters. The adherence of such men was vital to the Norman kings. Through them central business could be conducted and localities controlled. Small wonder they were well rewarded. Roger established a dynasty which dominated East Anglia from the 1140s, as earls of Norfolk, until 1306. Roger's byname and the subsequent family name was derived from a word (bigot) meaning double-headed instrument such as a pickaxe: a tribute, perhaps to Roger's effectiveness as a royal servant; certainly an apt image of one who worked hard both for his masters and for himself. [Who's Who in Early Medieval England, Christopher Tyerman, Shepheard-Walwyn, Ltd., London, 1996] ----------- The following information was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com: born ca 1060 St. Saveur (sic), Normandy [Ref: McBride] father: possibly Robert le Bigot, but seems unlikely on chronological grounds [Ref: CP IX:575], Robert le Bigot [Ref: Wurts p422] Parentage not certainly known [Ref: CP IX:575] Descended from Sveide The Viking, a Norse King who died 760 [Ref: Holloway p4] Research note 1: McBride2 citing Burke's p53 indicates his parents were Wigot de St. Denis & a sister of Turstin Goz: "According to Wace, the Bigot family originated in Maletot, near Caen, Canon (chanon) in the arrondissement of Lisieux and either Les Loges, near Aunay, or another commune of the same name, near Falaise. The original name of the family was Wiggott, Wigott, Bygod. The family of Bigot or Wigot, was descended from Wigort de St. Denis, one of the great nobles of Normandy, who made grants to Cerisy abbey in 1042, and in 1050 witnessed a charter of Duke William at the head of the Norman barons. He married*, father of Richard d'Avranches, by whom his younger son, Roger Wigot or Bigot, was ingratiated into the good graces of Duke William of Normandy." (* Note: part of the citation seems to be missing. Since McBride did not indicate which publication of Burke | Bigod, Roger Sheriff Of Suffolk & Norfolk (I21021)
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| 589 | The following info was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com: I believe he was called "le Denois/the Dane" because he was from Denmark... Curt Count of Guines [Ref: Turton p134] Siegfried, Norse ruler in Gu | De Guines, Count Sigfried "The Dane" (I70609)
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| 590 | The following information relating to other sources for Main, father of William, is contained in a post-em from Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com: Main d'Aubigny, Lord of Saint-Aubin, d'Aubigne [Ref: Richard Borthwick 14 Jul 1999 citing: J.S. Moore "Prosopographical Problems of English libri vitae" in K S B Keats-Rohan (ed) *Family Trees and the Roots of Politics: The prosopography of Britain and France from the tenth to the twelfth century* (The Boydell Press: Woodbridge, 1997) 179] Main d'Aubigny, lord of St.Aubin d'Aubign | D'albini, Main (I71260)
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| 591 | The following information was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com: granddau of Robert de Todenei, the founder of Belvoir [Ref: Watney #298] inherited Belvoir from her mother [Ref: CP IX:578(c), KeatsRohan Belvoir p3] Cecily LE BIGOD. Died After 1164. Heir of her mother in Belvoir. Cecily was alive when her son granted the church of Redmile, Leics to Belvoir Priory in about 1165. [Ref: Richard Borthwick 14 Jul 1999 citing: Keats-Rohan Family Trees 175, Keats-Rohan Domesday People I:380, Sanders p12, Wareham XVII:230] Cecily 'de Belvoir' (dau of Roger Bigod), m. William d'Aubigny the Breton, who had obtained part of the fee of Belvoir before Cecily's mother was given possession of it; this marriage, therefore, may have been arranged to settle rival claims. Cecily eventually inherited Belvoir from her mother (Hist. MSS. Com., Rutland MSS., vol. iv. pp. 106-7, 144, 161) [Ref: Utz 10 Jan 1999 citing: Geoffrey H. White essay on "Norfolk" in CP IX:578(c)] I. J. Sanders, English Baronies, in his discussion of Belvoir, Leicestershire, p. 12, says: "Robert de Todeni, Domesday lord of Belvoir, d. 1088. William, s. and h., d.s.p. when his heir for Belvoir was his sister Alice. "Alice m. Roger Bigod d. 1107 of Framlingham, q.v. She d. post Aug. 1127 leaving Cecily. "Cecily m. William I de Albini Brito d. 1133-55.[3] William II d'Aubigny d. 1168 leaving William III, a minor, d. 1236. . . ." Footnote 3 reads: "Regesta, ii, no. 1495; Rutland MSS, iv, pp. 144, 161. William seems to have controlled part of the Belvoir estate before the death of Alice (idem, p. 107). William witnesses letters dated 1133 but the early pipe rolls of Henry II give no evidence of his death (Regesta, ii, nos. 1777, 1798)." [Sanders' phrase, "leaving Cecily," clearly implies, from his usage throughout ". . . as daughter and heir."] Anthony Wagner, English Genealogy, p. 66, comments: ". . . William d'Aubigny the Breton did indeed succeed a son of Robert de Tony at Belvoir, but it was, as Round showed, in virtue of his marriage to Robert's granddaughter Cicely.[3]" Footnote 3 reads: "Hist. MSS. Comm. MSS. of the Duke of Rutland, iv. 106; Complete Peerage, ix, 577. [Ref: Utz 10 Jan 1999 (Alan B. Wilson 14 Dec 1997)] More important in terms of size in England, the lordship of Belvoir was nonetheless the lesser of the two Tosny lordships because it was not associated with their Norman heritage. As the inheritance of a woman married to an important tenant-in-chief it could be expected to pass to one of her younger children and not her husband's principal male heir. Since she had no surviving younger sons after 1120, the devolution of Belvoir to one of her daughters was inevitable. Gunnor and Matilda had long since been provided for from their father's inheritance by the time, after c. 1115/1118, that Adelisa succeeded to Belvoir. Consequently it was the youngest daughter Cecilia - quite probably a mere infant at her father's death in 1107 - who became her mother's heiress. She was, of course , an heiress whose marriage could advantageously be used to reward one of the king's loyal new men. Cecilia's marriage to William de Albini Brito has been said to have occurred as early as 1107 on the basis of a Belvoir charter given by Ralph de Raines and attested by Roger Bigod, but it certainly took place much later. The Belvoir charter just mentioned probably begins to the early 1140s . It was attested by William de Albini senior and his wife Cecilia, their son William junior, Roger Bigot, Robert de Toteneio, Ralph de Albeneio and others.[17] Since William, Robert and Ralph were certainly sons of William and Cecilia it is clear that Roger Bigod was also, as is confirmed by the order of their sons William, Robert, Roger, listed in the Thorney Liber vitae (BL Add, 40, 000, fol. 2r) [17] Mon. Ang. ii, 289, no. 111. [Ref: PROSOPON 9 Belvoir: The Heirs of Robert and Berengar de Tosny by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan http://www.linacre.ox.ac.uk/research/prosop/PRSPN9.stm] Regards, Curt | Bigod, Cecily (I70963)
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| 592 | The following information was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com: said to have been related to Richard D'AVRANCHES, father of Hugh, Earl of Chester [Ref: CP IX:575(b)] The first person who, bearing the name of Bigod or Bigot, appears in history is Robert le Bigod, a poor knight, who gained the favour of William, Duke of Normandy, by discovering to him the intended treachery of William, count of Martain. This Robert may have been the father of Roger, and one or the other, or both, may have been present at the battle of Hastings. He may also be the same mentioned as holding lands at Malitot, Loges, and Chanon in Normandy, and as serving the duke in his household as one of his seneschals. He was small of body, but brave and bold, and assailed the English gallantly. [Ref: DNBiography II:484] FWIW, if you go to Keats-Rohan's PROSOPON at http://www.linacre.ox.ac.uk/research/prosop/dbase.stm a (sample) chart of the COEL database also indicates a dau Matilda Bigod who m. Hugo de Hosdenc & had a son Humfrid Bigod. Regards, Curt | Bigod, Robert (I21018)
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| 593 | The following information was contained in a post-em from Curt Hofemann: Count d'Ivry [Ref: Tompsett, Wm Conqueror] half-brother: Richard I Duke of Normandy [Ref: ES III:694A] ...Richard the Fearless' mother, Espriota, married, in the troublous times of his boyhood, a rich countryman called Sperling. They had a son called Raoul of Ivry, who seems to have been high in power and favor with the second Richard, his half-brother... [Ref: The Normans by Sarah Orne Jewett, Chapter V, DUKE RICHARD THE GOOD http://www.public.coe.edu/~theller/soj/nor/nor05.html] Douglas mentions a 'half' brother of Richard, who assumed the title of count between 1006 and 1011. p.89 A clearer example of the acquisition by a feudal family of lands which had earlier been part of the ducal demesne, can be seen in the descent of the possessions of Count Rudolf, half-brother to Duke Richard I. Among the lands held by this man were estates situated on the Risle near Saint Philibert; estates on the Eure, including Concherel, Jouy, and, it would seem, Pacy; lands dependent on Breteuil; and lands centred on Ivry. Many of these lands, particularly those on the Eure, were inextricably intermingled with the earliest demesne of the Norman duke and must have come to Rudulf through his stepfather or his half-brother. Their subsequent devolution is thus of particular interest. Part of Ivry lands went to the count's eldest son Hugh, bishop of Bayeux, while the barony of Saint Philibert passed through the count's second son, John bishop of Avranches, to that cathedral church. But the larger part of Rudolf's possessions, including the honour of Pacy and the district honour of Breteuil, descended through the count's daughter, Emma, to her husband Osbern, the steward of Duke Robert I, and one of the guardians of the infant William. [Ref note: the previous URL of the online source of this is no longer valid & a google.com search did not show a new URL ... Curt 01/01/03] The ducal family of Normandy early determined to have an historiographer whom they sought in France, one Dudon, dean of the chapter of St. Quentin, who between 1015-30 wrote in Latin half verse, half prose, a history of the family according to the traditions and accounts transmitted to him by Raoul, Count of Ivry grandson of Rollo and brother of Richard I Alinea. [Ref: Catholic Encyclopedia http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11104a.htm] Happy New Year! Regards, Curt | D'ivry, Count Ralph (Raoul) (I70277)
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| 594 | The following information was in a post-em from Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com: 1189-1200: Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland [Ref: Weis AR7 38:25] Roland, the father of Alan and Thomas, obtained extensive estates in the shires of Northampton, Huntingdon, and Bedford, in right of his wife, Elena de Moreville [Ref: Turton] "During the 1180s the king [William the Lion] struck up an alliance with Lachlan (or 'Roland'), lord of Galloway, who had married into the Anglo-Norman family of Moreville, and whose change of name neatly captures the interaction that was beginning between the native and foreign cultures. When in 1187 William was again faced by a northern uprising, it was Roland who captured its leader, Donald mac William, a distant kinsman of the king". p. 59: "Roland of Galloway's marriage to the Moreville heiress expanded the family's interests." [Ref: Political Development of the British Isles 1100-1400, by Robin Frame, Oxford, 1990, p. 42] "Roland, Lord of Galloway, the son of Uchtred. On the death of his uncle, Gilbert, in 1185, Roland rose in arms, and possessed himself of all of Galloway." Henry II threatened to invade in 1186; Roland agreed to swear fealty, give his three sons as hostages, and keep Uchtred's lands. Gilbert's son Duncan got Carrick. "Roland greatly increased his lands by marrying Eva, Ela, or Helena, daughter of Richard de Moreville, Constable of Scotland, who died 1196. Roland inherited the office of Constable. Issue: 1. Alan. 2. Thomas, Earl of Atholl. 3. ---, hostage in 1186. Daughter Ada married Sir Walter Bisset." [Ref: "Peerage of Scotland" by John Philip Wood, Edinburgh, 1813, v 1, pp. 612-13] "On the death of the cruel Gilbert in 1185, Roland, son of Uchtred, claimed the lordship of Galloway. . . . Roland, the father of Alan and Thomas, obtained extensive estates in the shires of Northampton, Huntingdon, and Bedford, in right of his wife, Elena de Moreville (Joseph Bain, "Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland", vol. i, p. 47)." [Ref: A History of Dumfries and Galloway" by Sir Herbert Maxwell, Edinburgh, 1896, p 56] "In 1200 Lachlan, alias Roland, son of Uhtred lord of Galloway, remembered . . . that his wife Helen de Morville, heir of her father Richard and of her grandmother Beatrice de Beauchamp, was entitled to four knights' fees respectively at Bozeat, Northants, Whissendine and Whitwell in Rutland, Offord in Huntingdonshire, and Houghton Conquest beside Bedford--the 5 hides at Houghton having been originally acquired by Hugh de Beauchamp, Beatrice's grandfather, probably not long before 1086." [Ref: The Anglo-Norman Era in Scottish History" by G.W.S. Barrow, Oxford, 1980, p 17] | Galloway, Lord Roland (I56623)
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| 595 | The following information was posted by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, in a post-em (Although he doesn't say it in this post-em, Curt doesn't like it when I follow various unscourced pedigrees such as Robert's descent from Ragnvald II Brusisson, Jarl of Orkney. This one makes some sense because of the names.): from Bruis in Normandy, came to England with or shortly after William I [Ref: Paget p155] Bruce family: also spelled BRUIS, BRIX, or BROASE, an old Scottish family of Norman French descent, to which two kings of Scotland belonged. The name is traditionally derived from Bruis or Brix, the site of a former Norman castle between Cherbourg and Valognes in France. The family is descended from Robert de Bruce (d. 1094?), a Norman knight who came to England with William I the Conqueror and who was awarded by the gift of many manors, chiefly in Yorkshire, of which Skelton was the principal. [Ref: Ency Britannica Online] Regards, Curt | De Brus Of Normandie, Robert (I70226)
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| 596 | The following information was provided by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com: aka: Hodierna de la Ferte/Fort/Forte-Alais Dame de Gometz et de la Forte-Alais [Ref: ES III:659] sister of William de la Ferte, alias Seigneur de Gometz, Seneschal of France [Ref: Moriarty p63] dame of Bures [Ref: Peter Stewart d. Dec 1 after 1074 [Ref: Moriarty p63] Dec 7 after 1074 [Ref: Moriarty p265] occ (living) 1074 [Ref: ES III:624] Regards, Curt | De Gometz, Dame Hodierne (I70761)
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| 597 | The following information was provided in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com: Seigneur de Montlhery & de Bray [Ref: McBride, Moriarty p63, Watne p276] Seigneur de Monthlery [Ref: ES III:659] seigneur of Montlh | De Montlhery, Seigneur Guy I (I55783)
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| 598 | The following information, which indicates that there is not much solid evidence on Baldric, is contained in a post-em by Curt Hoffeman, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com. Based on it, I added Aimee de Brionne as a wife. However I kept Muriel as mother of Baldric's 1st two children. However unlikely, this leaves Baldric marrying 1st the illegitimate daughter of Richard I of Normandy, and 2nd his great granddaughter. FWIW (caveat emptor): But the names "GILBERT" and "GEOFFREY" as the early ancestors of the DE NEVILLES on your list might indicate some likelihood that Baudric's wife was indeed a niece of Gilbert de Brionne, as written by Orderic. Orderic not only stated the fact about the niece of GILBERT marrying "BALDRIC," but named their six sons, including Nicholas DE BASKERVILLE and Richard DE NEVILLE, according to P. H. Baskervill... In my letter to GEN-MEDIEVAL, I also said that BAUDRY/BAUDRIC le TEUTON and his brother WIGER came to Normandy and put themselves at the service of WILLIAM I, but it was not WILLIAM I, but WILLIAM's grandfather, Richard II of Normandy (996-1026) they served under, according to Orderic. Abbe' Daoust states that BAUDRY married AUBREE, niece of Gilbert DE BRIONNE. This is the first place I have seen the name of the niece. [Ref: Kay Roemer I have read that Gilbert's (de Brionne) niece Aubree married Baudric le Teuton and named a son Fulk, who later became Fulk d'Aunou. [Ref: Kay Roemir roemer222@aol.com 24 Jan 2001 message to Gen-Medieval] Balderic Teutonicus (Baudric le Teuton, Baudry the Teutonique, Baldricus) who had a brother Wigere. They together traveled east to assist their friend the Duke of Normandy. They were the sons of Wigelius de Courcie, the son of Charles, the son of Charles, Duke of Lorraine, who was the son of Charles III, King of France, Born on 17 sept. 879 & died oct. 7, 929. [Ref: Nietzsche Research note: Baldricus Teutonicus De Bacqueville, Lord Bacqueville & Caux... (married) Denefacta De Brienne (dau of Robert De Brienne, Count of Eu & Beatrice De Falaise [Ref: (unsourced) http://users.legacyfamilytree.com/NorthernEurope/f223.htm] Regards, Curt In reality, the dearth of records about him suggests any ancestry is speculatve (at best) not supported by reliable records (those that do are only guesses - my opinion only)... Curt | De Courcy, Seigneur Baldric "The Teuton" (I70868)
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| 599 | The following is a post to SGM, 21 Jul 2003, by Chris Phillips: From: Chris Phillips (cgp@medievalgenealogy.org.uk) Subject: Re: Matilda a dau of Adam fitz Swain Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2003-07-21 00:32:14 PST Jay wrote: [I wrote] > > Swein/Suen of Essex was the son of Robert fitz Wimarc [Keats-Rohan, Domesday > > People p. 424]. > Thanks Chris!!1 And a fitz patronymic as well so I get two ancestors > for the price of one!!!! Love two-fers Actually, this is a rare example of a matronymic, as discussed by Keats-Rohan in the introduction to Domesday People (p. 19). Apparently, J. H. Round originally pointed out that "Wimarc" was a woman (as stated explicitly by William of Poitiers), but suggested that her name indicated she was a Breton (in "Feudal England", pp. 256, 257). But Keats-Rohan points to statements by Vita AEdwardi Regis that Robert was a kinsman of Edward the Confessor, and by William of Poitiers that he was related to William the Conqueror. She suggests that as he was identified by his mother, she "was surely a high-born Norman", related to the ducal house. She goes on to cite references from charters of the abbey of Montivilliers, near Le Havre, which mention a nun Vuimardis/Wimardis, widow of Ansfrid the steward, and her apparent son Robert de Moyaux (Calvados, cant. Lisieux-1, who gave land formerly held by Ansfrid. Chris Phillips | Fitzwimarc, Robert (I70806)
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| 600 | The following is excerpted (full post is in notes under father) from a post to SGM, 3 Dec 1996, by Todd Farmerie: From: Todd A. Farmerie (taf2@po.cwru.edu) Subject: Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 1996/12/03 Duvelina, a second sister of Gunnor, married Turulf de Pont Audemer, son of a Norman founder Torf, and uncle of the first of the Harcourts. They had at least one son, Humphrey de Vielles, who in turn was father of Roger de Beaumont, another Conquest-era baron. | De Crepon, Duvelina (Eva\Dulceline) (I70455)
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