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| 451 | Mary, Countess of Menteith in her own right, younger daughter and coheir of Maurice, 3rd Earl of Menteith. [Burke's Peerage] | Of Menteith, Countess Mary (I70003)
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| 452 | Mary, daughter of Alexander Abernethy of that Ilk, thus acquiring Ballinbreich, Fife and Cairnie, Forfar. [Burke's Peerage] | Abernethy, Mary (I70120)
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| 453 | Matilda de Bruce, d. 20 July 1353; m. Thomas Isaac (or Ysac). [Magna Charta Sureties] | De Bruce Of Scotland, Princess Matilda (Maud) (I69973)
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| 454 | Matilda de Lacy (by first husband), coheir of her grandfath er, Walter de Lacy, died 11 April 1304; married (1) befor e 15 May 1244 Pierre de Geneva, dsp 1249 before 29 June, so n of Humbert, Comte de Geneva, and Agnes di Savoie; marrie d (2) before 8 Aug 1252, Geoffrey de Joinville, 1st Lord Ge nevil, Sire de Vaucouleurs, Lord of Ludlow (Salop) and of T rim (in Ireland), born c1226, died at Trim 21 Oct 1314, so n of Simon, Sire de Joinville, and Beatrix de Bourgogne. [ Magna Charta Sureties] Ancestral File Number: | Lacy, Maud (Matilda) De (I69841)
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| 455 | Maud (or Matilda) of Brittany, daughter of Stephen I, Count of Brittany. [Ancestral Roots] | Of Brittany, Matilda (Maud) (I70193)
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| 456 | Maud de St. Liz by her 2nd husband, Saher de Quincy of Buckley and Daventry. [Ancestral Roots] ----------------------- Maud de St. Liz, d. 1140; m. Robert Fitz Richard, d. 1134, son of Richard Fitz Gilbert de Clare and gradson of Gilbert, Count of Brionne, who was son of Godfrey, Count of Brionne, illegitimate son of Richard I, the Fearless, Duke of Normandy. [Magna Charta Sureties, line 157-1] ----------------------- Maud m. 1st, Robert, son of Richard de Tonbridge, and 2ndly, to William de Albini, according to Dugdale, but Hornby, in his remarks upon Dugdale's errors, proves that such alliances, if not impossible, were very improbable. A Maud de St. Liz is mentioned as wife of Saier de Quincy, being father and mother of Saier, 1st Earl of Winchester. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 468, St. Liz, Earls of Huntingdon] | De St. Liz, Maud (I71022)
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| 457 | Maud Fitz Robert, born before 1134; married William II (called Le Breton) d'Aubigny, son of William d'Aubigny of Belvoir, died 1155/6, and Cecily de Belvoir, daughter of Roger Bigod and Adeliz, daughter of Robert de Toeni de Belvoir. [Magna Charta Sureties] ---------------------------------- William, surnamed Meschines, and likewise Brito, had Belvoir Castle and a considerable portion of his lands restored by King Henry II, in the 14th of which monarch's reign [1168] he d. and was s. by his son, by his 1st wife, Adeliza, William de Albini. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 160, Daubeney, Barons Daubeney, Earl of Bridgewater] Note: William "Le Breton" married Maud FitzRobert, according to MCS. I think Sir Bernard Burke above, is confused with William "Strong Hand" d'Aubigny, who married Adeliza of Louvain. | D'albini, William "Le Breton" (I71258)
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| 458 | Maud [mother of Geoffrey Fitz Peter (or Piers), wife of Piers de Lutegareshale], Lady of Costow, co. Wilts. [Ancestral Roots] Maud de Mandeville [daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville by Rohese de Vere]; married (1) Piers de Lutegareshale; married (2) Hugh de Boclande, living 1176. [Magna Charta Sureties] Note: I have reversed the order of marriage which MCS has, because it certainly makes more sense according to the birthdates of the children. Both of Maud's husbands lived to be fairly old, making it very difficult, even doubtful, if she married both. I note that Ancestral Roots did not name her Maud de Mandeville (I think that the citation implies a prior marriage to someone from Costow, Wiltshire (possibly Hugh de Boclande?)), and that, according to Burke's Peerage, Geoffrey Fitz Piers did not use his mother's relationship to claim the Earldom of Essex. He used his wife, Beatrice de Say's descendancy from Beatrice de Mandeville sister of Geoffrey de Mandeville, 1st Earl of Essex. Thus, even though MCS clearly states her as Maud de Mandeville, daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville, I have my doubts. ------------------------------- The following post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com clears up the reason why Maud was mistaken for a daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville by MCS: Maud. Widow of Piers de Lutegareshale. Mother of Geoffrey fitz Piers earl of Essex [Ref: CP V:116 Table] Maud was not a de Mandeville. This error has been discussed several times on Gen-Medieval: Maud was not intended by this to be represented as Geoffrey's daughter, but this appears to be the genesis of this mistaken affiliation. As has been pointed out, it is clear that Geoffrey Fitz Piers came to hold Mandeville land, as well as the Earldom of Essex, through his wife, who was granddaughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville's sister. This is best seen by the fact that the land and titles descended to Bohun, to the exclusion of Geoffrey's son and male heir, John Fitz Geoffrey, son by a second wife. So, no Mandeville land can be shown to have been held by Piers, or by Geoffrey prior to his marriage; no Mandeville land descended to Geoffrey's (and hence Maud's) heir male; no document has been brought forward which claims Maud, wife of Piers, was a Mandeville; no daughter or sister of an Earl of Essex would have been allowed to marry such a lowly knight as Piers. No, Maud was not a Mandeville. [Ref: TAF 3 Apr 1998] Maud de Mandeville was not daughter of Geoffrey and Rohese. This comes from a misreading of the chart of Essex in CP. She is placed at the same level as Geoffrey's children, but there is no line connecting her with Geoffrey. Likewise, Piers was a local forester, and never would have been given the daughter of someone of Geoffrey's status. Even if it were true, her children would have been immediately elevated in status, but instead, Geoffrey Fitz Piers had to work his way up through the king's household service. He was a "new man", and not the grandson of an Earl. [Ref: TAF 19 Apr 1998] TAF = Todd A. Farmerie Also, Bill Marshall http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db= wtm& surname=A The mother of Geoffrey Fitz Piers was Maud, wife of Piers de Lutegareshale. As far as I have been able to determine, there was never any Maud de Mandeville at this point in the Mandeville pedigree until someone misread CP. I followed back the references cited by Weis/Sheppard Magna Carta Sureties (later repeated in AR7) and they all either say nothing of the sort, or else lead right to the CP Essex article. Nowhere in the text does it mention a Maud other than simply as wife of Piers, and there it does not call her Maud de Mandeville nor provide any evidence of a connection. In the associated chart, (and here's the rub) Piers, Maud, and her second husband are placed under the horizontal line which unites the children of Geoffrey de Mandeville. This would, at first glance, appear to show Maud as Geoffrey's daughter (this applies to Maud, but not Piers or his successor, because Maud is not given a surname). However, a closer look reveals that there is no vertical line dropping down from the horizontal to connect her with Geoffrey: Geoffrey de Mandeville. | De Mandeville, Maud (I70867)
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| 459 | Maud, 1st sister and coheir of Ranulph (DE BLUNDEVILLE), EARL OF CHESTER. [Complete Peerage] | Chester, Maud Of (I71021)
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| 460 | Melmare (brother of Malcolm III King of Scots in the late 11th century). [Burke's Peerage] | Of Atholl, Mormaer (I70482)
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| 461 | Miles the Marshal, and his wife Lesceline, in or after 1059, sold to the Countess Maud (the Conqueror's wife) for her foundation of the Abbey of the Holy Trinity at Caen, whatever they held in the vill of Vaucelles -- now a suburb of Caen -- and in the church and the mill there, for four score pounds. Miles and Leseline gave land at Caen, Vaucelles and Venoix in marriage with their daughter Beatrice to a certain Arfast. Miles sold to Lanfranc, abbot of St. Stephen's, Caen (1066-1070), the land occupied by the channel of the Odon, from the point at which it left the old channel, with both banks, but he died before Lanfranc left Caen for Canterbury in 1070. [Complete Peerage XI:Appendix E:122-3] | De Venoix, Miles "Le Marshal" (I70965)
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| 462 | Morg(r)und Mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; witness by 1152 to a charter of David I and his son Henry to Dunfermline, also a confirmatory charter to the same foundation by David's successor Malcolm IV in the mid 1150's; married Agnes and died by 30 March 1183, leaving possibly five or six sons (Malcolm; James; Duncan; David/Donald (possibly the same person); John); one of his sons may have been the man who was his undoubted successor as Earl. [Burke's Peerage] | De Mar, Sir Morgund Macgylocher (I71061)
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| 463 | MORTIMER of Richard's Castle The descent of the lordship of Burford, Salop, with Richard's Castle, co. Hereford, as its caput, is traced by Eyton from RICHARD FITZSCRUB, a Norman favourite of Edward the Confessor, who was allowed-by the Godwin party to remain in England in 1053, and who built and gave his name to the castle. [Complete Peerage IX:256, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] ------------------------ The following information was from a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com: Richard Scrupe, or Fitz-Scrupe, held various manors in Worcestershire, Herefordshire, and Shropshire in the time of Edward the Confessor, as appears on the authority of Domesday book, at the compilation of which, they were possessed by his son, Osborn Fitz-Richard, or Fitz-Scrop. [Ref: John Burke, The Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, R. Bentley, London, 1834-1838, Vol. III, p. 693, Scrope, of Castle Combe] Regards, Curt | Fitzscrob, Richard (I70736)
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| 464 | Neil, Earl of Carrick, and Margaret, daughter of Walter, High Steward of Scotland. [Magna Charta Sureties] Guardian of Alexander III King of Scotland. [Ancestral Roots] Click here for Photo of Carrick Castle (use browser back arrow to return) | Of Carrick, Earl Neil (I69942)
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| 465 | Nicholas of Dalkeith; MP 1290 (a nominee of Robert Bruce 1292), but swore fealty to Edward I of England 1296; married Mary, who inherited property from (hence may have been kin to) Marjory de Muschamp, 1st wife of 5th Earl of Strathearn. [Burke's Peerage] | Graham Of Dalkeith, Nicholas (I70166)
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| 466 | No printed source that I have indicates the identity of Emma's husband (father of Gilbert).. Emma's sister Agnes certainly m. Geoffrey Talbot. | De Lacy, Emma (I70799)
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| 467 | NORSE PREDECESSORS of the EARLS of ORKNEY - subject to King of Norway until after 1379 Brusi, Jarl of one-third of Orkney 1014, a "mild and very peaceable man, wise, eloquent and popular." When Thorfinn invaded Orkney from Caithness in 1018, Brusi induced Einar to allow Thorfinn to have Somerled | Of Orkney, Jarl Brusi Sigurdsson (I70503)
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| 468 | NORSE PREDECESSORS of the EARLS of ORKNEY - subject to King of Norway until after 1379 Ragnvald II Brusisson, Jarl of two-thirds at Orkney Autumn 1038, b. 1011. He was taken by his father to Norway in the spring of 1021 and left as a hostage with St. Olaf (1021-1028), attended him into exile at Novgorod, returned with him to Norway, and was defeated with him at the battle of Stikklestad (29 July 1030); but he escaped to Sweden with St. Olaf | Of Orkney, Jarl Ragnvald II Brusisson (I70752)
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| 469 | Note: CP has William as Agnes's 1st husband, and her 2nd husband as Piers de Brus. This has been changed, according to a review of the evidence as indicated by postings to soc.genealogy.medieval. See notes under Agnes. -------------------------- [WILLIAM DE ROUMARE, called Helie, son and heir. He joined with his parents in the foundation of Revesby. As Willelmus puer, filius comitis, he attested one of his father's charters. He made a grant circa 1150, using an equestrian seal, and was a benefactor to Bardney. After his death his father made a grant to Crowland "for the absolution of the soul of William my son, whose household had laid violent hands on the abbot himself in time of war," so that the son William came under censure. He married Agnes, 4th daughter of Stephen, COUNT OFAuMALE. He died v.p., in 1151, and is said to have been buried at Revesby. His widow married Piers DE BRUS.] [Complete Peerage VII:670, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] | Roumare, William De (I70384)
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| 470 | Note: From the notes below there appears to be a difference of opinion about when Gwaithfoed lived. Harold died 1066 (of course), which fits with Gwaithfoed's death date of 1057. But Edgar lived from 943 to 975, so if he was contemporary with both, he lived a long and prosperous life, marrying both early and very late in life, which is how I portray him. -------------------------- All of the following information came from Jane Williams Flank, World Connect db=jwflank, rootsweb.com: Gwaethfoed, Lord of Cardigan and Gwynfai (d 1057), lived in the time of Harold the Saxon; m. Morfydd, dau. of Ivor (or Ynyr), King of Gwent, and one of his heirs. [Annals and Antiquities of Wales II:208] ______________________ Gwaethvoed was contemporary with Edgar, king of Saxons, and was, in conformity with the vassalage of those periods, summoned, with other Welsh chieftains, by Edgar, to meet him at Chester, to row him, in his royal barge, on the river Dee, in proof of his fealty. Gwaethvoed, in answer to his summons, said he could not row, and that he would not, if he could, except it were to save a person's life, whether king or vassal. Edgar sent a second and very imperious message, which Gwaethvoed did not seem at all to notice, until the messenger begged to know what reply he should deliver to the king; when Gwaethevoed, in the Welsh language, answered thus: 'Say to him, fear him who fears not death.: This stern reply, discovering at once to Edgar the fearless unbending character he had to deal with, he prudently changed his autocratic decree into a desire of mutual friendship, and going to Gwaethvoed, gave the chief his hand in pledge of his sincerity. Gwaethvoed married Morfydd, one of the daughters and co-heirs of Ivor, king or lord of Gwent. [Burke's Commoners III:387] Sources: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales; Dr Thomas Nicholas {1875}, p. II:208. Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler; Josephine C Frost {1939}, p. 425 Note: Cites as references for Welsh lineages: Royal Families of England, Scotland, Wales: Volume I & 2; Genealogical Tables of the Sovereigns of the World; Maunder's Biographical Treasures; Universial Biography; etc. The Mathew Mathes Family in America, I C VanDeventer {1929}, Page: 13. History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, John Burke {1834-1838}, III:387 | Clodien, Gwaithfoed "Fawr" Ap , Of Powys (I71151)
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| 471 | Note: I have taken my ancestry for Hubert de Burgh from various parts of note (a) below, making his father a half-brother of William FitzAldelin: (a) According to Dugdale's 'Baronage', he [Hubert de Burgh] was son of a brother of William FitzAldelin, steward of Henry II and lord of Connaught, but no definite evidence is adduced for this statement. For this supposed descent see Round, 'Feudal England'. According to Blomfield's 'Norfolk', he was son of Reyner de Burgh (probably of Burgh near Yarmouth), by Joan, one of the three daughters and coheirs of John, son of Sir William Punchard (by Alice, daughter and coheir of Fulk d'Oyry, lord of Gedney). A Reyner de Burgo, temp. John, took the Baron's side, his surety in making peace being his nepos John de Burgo (query son of Hubert). Blomfield also says Sir Reyner (son of William) de Burgh in the time of Richard I conveyed lands at Burgh and Amerton to John and Robert, sons of Ernald de Burgh, that Burgh was held by the Crown, but was in 1201 given to Hubert. There is no authority but Blomfield's for this descent, which is contradicted in one particular by Hubert's charter, circa 1330 (as Earl of Kent and Justiciar), giving the advowson of Oulton church, Norfolk, to Walsingham "for the soul of 'Alice' my mother who rests in the church of Walsingham". According to Blomfield he had a grandmother 'Alice'. An early charter of Hubert's circa 1201, as King's Chamberlain, confirms to Castle Acre the church of Newton All Saints given by his antecessor William de Boseville (possibly his wife's ancestor). This grant is witnessed by Hameline, Earl Warenne (who d. 1202), William de Warenne, and Hubert's brothers, Geoffrey, Archdeacon of Norwich, and Thomas (de Burgo). In 1221 Geoffrey de Bugh, then Bishop of Ely, as nepos of Alice de Nerford, daughter of John Punchard and widow of Robert de Nerford, dedicated a chapel at Creake, Norfolk, which afterwards became an Austin Abbey. In 1234 it was stated that the manors of Burgh, Beeston, Newton and Suterton were "the inheritance" of Hubert de Burgh. Hubert had a grant of lands in Aylsham and of the manor of Cawston (about 6 miles west of Burgh) from King John. Walter Rye, 'Norfolk Antiq. Misc.', suggests that Hubert came from Burgh near Aylsham, not Burgh in Flegg Hundred. He may have been son of William de Burgh who was party in a dispute as to the church of Colby (north of Aylsham) in 1199 and 1200. [Complete Peerage VII:133 note (a)] | Burgh, Reyner De , Sir (I70707)
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| 472 | Note: Jane Williams Flank, based on her sources, does not have this generation, although the birth dates would indicate that there is a missing generation (or two or three). This note came from descendant "Ieuan ap Gruffudd "Gethyn", b. 1348, which indicated he descended from Gwilym, son of Gwaithfoed, not Cedryck, as Jane Williams Flank has it. Therefore I am inserting a much needed extra generation (I think) into her ancestry. MATHEW OF LLANDAFF, RADIR, &c. This very ancient and long-continuing family derived from Gwilym, son of Gwaefthfoed, Lord of Cardigan, by Morfydd, dau. of Ynyr, King of Gwent, through Gruffydd Gethin, ranked as tenth from Gwaethfoed, and Ivan ap Gruffyd Gethin. [Annals and Antiquities of Wales II:578] | Gwaithfoed, Gwilym Ap , Lord Of Gwynfai (I71199)
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| 473 | Note: Roger Toeni's 1st wife, Stephanie, is questioned by some; especially her 2nd marriage to Garcias of Spain while Toeni was still alive. I agree that it does not make much sense. However ------------------------------- Roger de Toeni, also called Roger de Conches; fought Muslims in Spain; married 1st? Stephanie (m. 2nd Garsias, King of Spain) sister of Raymond Berenger, Count of Barcelona; married 2nd? Godeheut (m. 2nd Richard, 3rd Count of Evreux), and died 1038 or 1039 in battle against a neighboring noble whose territory he had overrun in a revolt against the succession of William I the Conqueror to his father's Norman possessions on the grounds that William was illegitimate. [Burke's Peerage] Note: According to BP, Roger married two different women as 1st husband, both married later husbands. There is no explanation given. Did the first marriage end in divorce? As stated above, I am treating the women as the same person. ------------------------------ ROGER DE TOENI I, styled also DE CONCHES, son and heir, was born probably about 990, for as stated above he was joined with his father in the custody of the castle of Tilli | De Toeni, Roger II "The Spaniard" (I70905)
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| 474 | Note: The ancestry is a little confused at this point. Apparently 'Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler', indicated below agrees with the way I have it, with Clodien marrying Morfydd verch Owain. but the 'Annals & Antiquities of Wales' has Morfydd, born about the same time, marrying Clodien's father, Gwrydr, and was thus not Gwaithfoed's mother, but his grandmother. Since the latter would make Gwaithfoed born much later, this scheme goes hand-in-hand with Gwaithfoed living more contemporaneously with Harold than with Edgar of England. (see notes under Gwaithfoed). I have tried to muddle through supporting both an early and late Gwaithfoed, so I am leaving Morfydd as married to Clodien. All of the following information came from Jane Williams Flank, World Connect db=jwflank, rootsweb.com: Sources: Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler; Josephine C Frost {1939}, p. 425 Note: Cites as references for Welsh lineages: Royal Families of England, Scotland, Wales: Volume I & 2; Genealogical Tables of the Sovereigns of the World; Maunder's Biographical Treasures; Universial Biography; etc. | Of Powys, Clodien Ap Gwrydr (I71194)
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| 475 | On Leicester, Earldom of [Burke's Peerage, p. 1671]: Robert de Beaumont, a companion in arms of William I (The Conqueror) at Hastings was granted after the Conquest much land in the Midlands of England, but most of it was in Warwickshire rather than Leicestershire. Indeed his younger brother became Earl of Warwick. Robert also held territory in Normandy and is usually referred to as Count of Meulan. He was a leading political figure in the reigns of William II and Henry I and on the death of one Ives de Grandmesnil in the First Crusade, the funds for campaigning in which Ives had raised from Robert on the security of his estates, [Robert] came into full possession of them, including a sizeable part of Leicester. The rest of the town was granted him by Henry I and it is possible that he became Earl of Leicester. His son, another Robert, certainly called himself Earl of Leicester. | De Beaumont, Earl Robert II Justiciar Of Ireland (I21398)
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| 476 | on the history of the Earldom of Huntingdon: His [Waltheof's] son-in-law Simon de St Liz was the next holder of the Earldom [of Huntingdon], the family connections of Simon's wife Maud making the transition a natural one under the terms prevailing then. Indeed the history of the Earldom over the next few decades amply illustrates the almost chattel-like nature of such a title at this time, a quasi-hereditary post which was nevertheless as often as not held from the king at pleasure and which could be transferred between members of the same family like a parcel of land. [Burke's Peerage] ------------------------ EARLDOM OF NORTHAMPTON (II, 1) EARLDOM OF HUNTINGDON (II) SIMON DE ST. LIZ, said to be a son of Ranulph the Rich, a Norman, appears to have come to England early in the reign of William II. Presumably in consequence of his mariiage, he became EARL of HUNTINGDON and NORTHAMPTON after 1086 (for he is not named in Domesday Book) and in or before 1090, when he witnessed a charter to Bath Abbey as "Earl Simon." He witnessed another royal charter under the same designation a little later. He fought for William in Normandy in 1098, and was taken prisoner by Louis, son of the French King. On the accession of Henry I in 1100 he witnessed the charter of liberties issued by the King at his Coronation. He built the Castle of Northampton and founded or refounded the Priory of St. Andrew in that town, and made it dependent on the Cluniac house of La Charit | De St. Liz, Earl Simon I (I71007)
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| 477 | Originally Elizabeth/Isabel (apparently the names are the same in Medieval English/Latin) was married to Walter de St. Valery, d. 1061, and then she married Joscelin Courtenay. However Walter apparently lived until after 1086, and possibly after 1097; so I don't know if they got a divorce, or if two sisters married the two gentlemen - and Isabel and Elizabeth are not the same person. There are sources for both marriages. | De Montlhery, Elizabeth (Isabel) (I70751)
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| 478 | Orm; had 1172/3 a charter feudalising the abbacy. [Burke's Peerage] | Of Abernethy, Abbot Orm (I70522)
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| 479 | Owain and his two brothers, Rhodri, d. 953, & Edwin, d. 954, were jointly kings of Deheubarth (Seisyllwg and Dyfed). The youngest, Owain, was sole king from 954. | Of Deheubarth, King Owain Ap Hywel (I71090)
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| 480 | OWNERS of the LORDSHIP of ABERGAVENNY (XI) William de Briouze, Lord of Briouze [in Normandy], Bramber, Brecon, Over-Gwent, etc., son and heir (a). He m. Maud de St Valery, "Lady of La Haie." In consequence of his well-known quarrel with King John, his lands were forfeited in 1208, and his wife and 1st son starved to death in the dungeons of Corfe (or of Windsor) in 1210. He d. at Corbeil near Paris, 9, and was buried 10 Aug 1211, in the Abbey of St. Victor at Paris. [Complete Peerage I:22] (a) He slaughtered Seisyll ap Dyvnwal and a host of unarmed Welshmen, in the castle of Abergavenny in 1175, in revenge for the death of his uncle Henry of Hereford. Seisyll was owner of Castle Arnold, and is said in an inaccurate version of the Brut to have captured Abergavenny in 1172, the slaughter being dated 1177. But the better version of the Brut, on the contrary, states that Seisyll was captured in 1172 by the garrison of Abergavenny. -------------------------------------- At his peak Lord of Bramber, Gower, Abergavenny, Brecknock, Builth, Radnor, Kington, Limerick, and the three castles of Skenfrith, Grosmont, and Whitecastle. William inherited Bramber, Builth, and Radnor from his father, Brecknock and Abergavenny through his mother. He was the strongest of the Marcher Lords involved in constant war with the Welsh and other lords. He was particularly hated by the Welsh for the massacre of three Welsh princes, their families and their men which took place during a feast at his castle of Abergavenny in 1175. He was sometimes known as the "Ogre of Abergavenny". One of the Normans' foremost warriors, he fought alongside King Richard at Chalus in 1199 (where Richard was killed). William received Limerick in 1201 from King John. He was also given custody of Glamorgan, Monmouth, and Gwynllwg in return for large payments. William captured Arthur, Count of Brittany at Mirebeau in 1202 and was in charge of his imprisonment for King John. He was rewarded in February 1203 with the grant of Gower. He may have had knowledge of the murder Prince Arthur and been bribed to silence by John with the city of Limerick in July. His honors reached their peak when he was made Sheriff of Herefordshire by John in 1206-7. He had held this office under Richard from 1192-1199. His fall began almost immediately. William was stripped of his office as bailiff of Glamorgan and other custodies in 1206-7. Later he was deprived of all his lands and, sought by John in Ireland, he returned to Wales and joined the Welsh Prince Llewelyn in rebellion. He fled to France in 1210 via Shoreham "in the habit of a beggar" and died in exile near Paris. Despite intending to be interred at St John's, Brecon, he was buried in the Abbey of St Victorie, Paris by Stephen Langton, the Archbishop of Canterbury, another of John's chief opponents who was also taking refuge there. His wife and son were murdered by King John-starved to death at Windsor Castle. See Castle of Grosmont William de Braose inherited the large estates of his grandmother, Berta de Gloucester, and besides possessed the Honour of Braose, in Normandy. This feudal lord was a personage of great power and influence during the reigns of Henry II and Richard I, from the former of whom he obtained a grant of the "whole kingdom of Limeric, in Ireland," for the service of sixty knight's fees, to be held of the king and his younger son, John. For several years after this period, he appears to have enjoyed the favour of King John and his power and possessions were augmented by divers grants from the crown. In the 10th of the king's reign [1209], when the kingdom laboured under an interdiction and John deemed it expedient to demand hostages from his barons to ensure their allegiance should the Pope proceed to the length of absolving them from obedience to the crown, his officers who came upon the mission to the Baron de Braose were met by Maud, his wife, and peremptorily informed that she would not entrust any of her children to the king, who had so basely murdered his own nephew, Prince Arthur. de Braose rebuked her for speaking thus, however, and said that if he had in anything offended the king, he was ready to make satisfaction according to the judgment of the court and the barons, his peers, upon an appointed day and at any fixed place without, however, giving hostages. This answer being communicated to the king, an order was immediately transmitted to seize upon the baron's person, but Braose having notice thereof fled with his family into Ireland. This quarrel between de Braose and King John is, however, differently related by other authorities. The monk of Llanthony stated that King John disinherited and banished him for his cruelty to the Welsh in his war with Gwenwynwyn, and that his wife Maud and William, his son and heir, died prisoners in Corfe Castle. Another writer relates, "that this William de Braose, son of Philip de Braose, Lord of Buelt, held the lands of Brecknock and Went for the whole time of King Henry II, Richard I, and King John without any disturbance until he took to wife the Lady Maud de St. Walerie, who, in revenge of Henry de Hereford, cause divers Welshmen to be murthered in the castle of Bergavenny as they sat at meat; and that for this, and for some other pickt quarrel, King John banished him and all his out of England. Likewise, that in his exile, Maud his wife, with William, galled, Gam, his son, were taken and put into prison where she died the 10th year after her husband fought with Gwenwynwyn and slew three thousand Welch." From these various relations, says Dugdale, it is no easy matter to discover what his demerits were, but what usage he had at last, take here the credit of these two historians who lived near that time. "This year, viz. anno 1240," quoth Matthew of Westminster, "the noble lady Maud, wife of William de Braose, with William, their son and heir, were miserably famished at Windsor by the command of King John; and William, her husband, escaping from Scorham, put himself into the habit of a beggar and, privately getting beyond sea, died soon after at Paris, where he had burial in the abbey of St. Victor." And Matthew Paris, putting his death in anno 1212 (which differs a little in time), says, "That he fled from Ireland to France and, dying at Ebula, his body was carried to Paris and there honourably buried in the abbey of St. Victor." "But after these great troubles in his later days," continues Dugdale, "I shall now say something of his pious works. Being by inheritance from his mother, Lord of Bergavenny, he made great grants to the monks of that priory, conditionally, that the abbot and convent of St. Vincent, in Maine (to which this priory of Bergavenny was a cell) should daily pray for the soul of him, the said William, and the soul of Maud, his wife." This great but unfortunate personage had issue by his wife, Maud de St. Walerie, I. William; II. Giles: III. Reginald; IV. Sir John; I. Joane; II. Loretta; III. Margaret; IV. Maud. When the contest between King John and the barons broke out, Giles de Braose, bishop of Hereford, arraying himself under the baronial banner, was put in possession by the people of Bergavenny and the other castles of the deceased lord, and eventually King John, in the last year of his reign, his wrath then being assuaged, granted part of those lands to the bishop's younger brother and heir. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 72, Braose, Baron Braose, of Gower] | De Braose, William III (I52786)
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| 481 | Patrick de Dunbar, 4th Earl of Dunbar; the first fully to style himself Earl of Dunbar, though referred to by at least one contemporary source as Earl of Lothian. Justiciar Lothian; Keeper of Berwick. [Burke's Peerage] --------------------- EARLDOM OF DUNBAR (IV) PATRICK (DE DUNBAR), EARL OF DUNBAR [SCT], son and heir, born 1152, being the first of his race who assumed (from his Castle of Dunbar) the territorial style of Earl of Dunbar; justiciary of Lothian and Keeper of Berwick. He is called by Fordun "Comes Lodensis," Earl of Lothian. He attended William the Lion to Lincoln, in 1200, to do homage for his lands in England, as also Alexander II to York, in June 1221, on the occasion of that King's marriage with the Princess Joan, sister of Henry III. He founded a monastery of the Red Friars, at Dunbar, in 1218. He married, 1stly, in 1184, Ada, illegitimate daughter of William the Lion. She died 1200. He married, 2ndly, before 4 December 1214, [probably before 1208] Christine, widow of William BRUCE, of Annandale. He died 31 December 1232, having recently become a monk, and was buried at Eccles, aged 80. [Complete Peerage IV:505, XIV:283] | Dunbar, Sir Patrick (I71038)
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| 482 | Patrick de Dunbar, 6th Earl of Dunbar; member of a pro-English group among the Scots nobility, as which managed to get the boy King Alexander III away from the dominance of the Comyn family, becoming in consequence 1255 Regent of Scotland and Guardian to Alexander and his young consort (dau of Henry III of England); commanded a division of the Scottish army in the victory over Norsemen at Largs 1263. [Burke's Peerage] -------------------- Note: Even though CP, below, and BP, above, do not mention Christina Bruce (in fact CP states that it is an error), I have added her as a 2nd/alternative wife, and mother of Cecilia Dunbar, who supposedly was wife of James Stewart (again without any source that I have seen). -------------------- EARLDOM OF DUNBAR (VI) PATRICK (DE DUNBAR), EARL OF DUNBAR [SCT], son and heir, aged 35 when served heir to his father's lands in England, 13 December 1248. He was one of the English faction in 1255, in which year he rescued Alexander III from the power of the Comyn family, and was nominated in September 1255, REGENT [SCT] and Guardian of the King and Queen. He held a command against the Norwegians, at Largs, in 1263; was a signatory to the treaty, 6 July 1266, for the cession of the Hebrides and the Isle of Man to Scotland; as also to the marriage contract of Margaret of Scotland with Eric of Norway, 25 July 1281; and again in February 1283/4, to the succession of the "Maid of Norway" to the throne of Scotland. He married, 1242, Cecil [a], daughter of John. He died at Whittingham, 24 August 1289, aged 76, and was buried at Dunbar. [Complete Peerage IV:506, XIV:283, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] [a] See chartulary of Coldstream, nos. 1 and 9, and chartulary of Kelso, nos. 77 and 81. She is conjectured to have been an heiress of the family of Fraser, in consequence of which alliance this Earl (4 Nov. 1261) bore (being the first of his race who did so) the roses of the house of Fraser in a bordure round the lion rampant of Dunbar. Christian Bruce (sister of Robert Bruce, the competitor, 1291-92, for the throne of Scotland) is the wife assigned to him in Wood's 'Douglas', but erroneously. (ex inform. A. H. Dunbar). | Dunbar, Sir Patrick (I70137)
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| 483 | Patrick de Dunbar, 7th Earl of Dunbar; also from c 1290 known as (1st) Earl of March from his possessions on the Border, or March, with England, and more familiarly as "Black-Beard", a claimant to the vacant Scottish Crown 1291 but quite soon dropped the claim; allying himself with the English in their war against the Scots 1296 and being made King Edward I's Lt. of Scotland 1298 and taking part with the English in the Siege of Carlaverock 1300 (on which occasion in one source the title is revived for him of Earl of Lothian). m by 1282 Marjory Comyn (apparently of completely opposite loyalties to those of her husband since she held out in Dunbar Castle on behalf of the Scots against besieging English till obliged to capitulate in April 1296). [Burke's Peerage] --------------------- EARLDOM OF MARCH [SCT] (I) EARLDOM OF DUNBAR [SCT] (VII) PATRICK (DE DUNBAR), EARL OF DUNBAR [SCT], who, first of his race, is called EARL OF MARCH [b] [SCT], son and heir, aged 47 in 1289. He had livery of his father's lands 14 May 1290. He was one of the competitors for the Crown of Scotland, lodging his Petition 3 August 1291, at Berwick, in right of his great-grandmother, the Countess Ada, (illegitimate] daughter of King William. This claim he soon withdrew, swearing fealty to Edward I on 25 March 1296, and taking the English side when hostilities began that year. In 1298 he was the King's Lieutenant for Scotland, and in 1300 was with his son Patrick at the siege of Carlaverock. He married, in or shortly before 1282, Marjory, daughter of Alexander (COMYN), EARL OF BUCHAN [SCT], by Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of Roger (DE QUINCI), EARL OF WINCHESTER. She held the Castle of Dunbar for the Scots till forced, 29 April 1296, to surrender it to Edward I. He died 10 October 1308, aged 66. [Complete Peerage IV:506-7 (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] [b] i.e. of the Scottish Marches or border lands. The Merse, or March, was part of the lands in Berwickshire granted, in 1072, by Malcolm III to Earl Gospatric. It was not till the Parl. at Brigham, in Mar. 1290, that the Earl of Dunbar appears to have assumed the designation of Earl of March [Comes de Marchia], since which period these Earls were generally known as "of March." The Welsh Marches, similarly, gave the title of "Earl of March" to the House of Mortimer, 1328 to 1424. | Dunbar, Sir Patrick (I70135)
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| 484 | Peter, of Dalkeith, part of which he granted to Newbottle Abbey. [Burke's Peerage] | Graham Of Dalkeith, Peter (I71285)
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| 485 | Phil Moody gives the ancestry for Robert de Brus according to Collins Peerage, 1959, which I have followed. Except that I can't get all the generations that he has, given a birth date for this Robert of 1078. From the birth years of his descendants, it looks like Robert might have been born much later. Note: Turton does not have the generation of Robert de Brus & Agnes de St. Clair in his pedigree. If that generation were not included, then the 1078 birth date for this generation of Robert would be reasonable. Warning: John Ravilious states that Robert's father was most likely another Robert, not the Adam stated by Collins Peerage. Also he believes that the Collins Peerage pedigree was based on secondary sources, and cannot be documented. I have included it, but caveat emptor. | De Brus Of Skelton, Robert III (I70309)
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| 486 | Phil Moody, citing Collins Peerage, 1959, states that Adam came in 1050 with Emma, daughter of Richard I of Normandy. Emma was wife of Aethelred "The Unready". This is clearly impossible given the known dates in the pedigree. If anyone came with Emma, it was Adam's grandfather Robert. Actually malinda, in a posting to SGM, 23 Jun 2002, states that it was grandfather Robert's brother Adam who came with Emma. Caveat Emptor. --------- Turton has Adam as son of Robert de Brus by Emma. Turton appears to skip the generation of Robert & Agnes de St. Clair. He has Robert, husband of Emma de Ramsay, d. 1080. This is the same death date as I have for Agnes de St. Clair. | De Brus Of Cleveland, Adam (I70318)
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| 487 | Philip had [Hervey de Keith]. [Burke's Peerage] | Keith, Philip (I71299)
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| 488 | Philippa (Matilda or Maud) of Toulouse, b. ca. 1073, divorced 1115/6, d. 28 Nov 1117; m. (1) Sancho Ramiros, King of Aragon; m. (2) 1094, William VII of Poitou (IX of Aquitaine), Count of Poitou, Duke of Aquitaine, b. ca. 22 Oct 1071, d. 10 Feb 1126/7, crusader 1101. [Ancestral Roots] ------------------------------ The following post to SGM, 6 Mar 2003, by Thierry Stasser in response to my query, dispells the marriage of Philippa & Sancho Ramirez, as well as AR's "ca. 1073" birth date: From: Thierry Stasser (thierry.stasser@wanadoo.be) Subject: Re: Phillipa de Toulouse, granddaughter of Maud de Montgomery & Robert de Mortain Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2003-03-06 12:42:53 PST William IV of Toulouse married Emma, dau of Robert of Mortain, before June 16, 1080 (Histoire G | Of Toulouse, Countess Philippa (I53763)
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| 489 | Protector of Monastery of Fecamp. | De St. Valery, Gulbert (I70789)
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| 490 | Quotation from Burke's Peerage of Great Britain: "The surname of Ker or Car is of great antiquity in Scotland and some are of the opinion that they came originally to this Island from France, where there are several considerable families who made a great figure even before the 10th century and whose posterity are subsisting in that knigdom to this day. That one of these, a man of rank and spirit came over to England with William the Conqueror in 1066, had a considerable command in his army and having remarkably distinguished himself for courage and conduct, gat from that great Prince a large share of the conquered lands, particularly in the North of England, where his posterity still subsists and that of him all the Kers in Great Britain are descended. Several families of that name lived during the time of Alexander III (1249)." | Ker, Nichol (I70039)
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| 491 | Ralph de Gael de Montford, Seigneur of Montford de Gael in Britanny, son of Ralph de Gael, 1st Earl of Norfolk, Suffolk, and Cambridge, Seigneur of Montford de Gael in Britanny, and Emma, daughter of William Fitz Osbern, a Companion of William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings, 1066, Earl of Hereford. [Ancestral Roots] | De Montford, Seigneur Ralph De Gael (I70899)
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| 492 | RALPH DE MORTIMER, son and heir [of Roger by Hawise], succeeded his father before 1086, when he appears in Domesday Book as tenant in chief in twelve counties. His possessions lay largely in Herefordshire and Shropshire, Wigmore in the former county being the caput of the honour. Both Wigmore and Cleobury, in Shropshire, had belonged to William FitzOsbern, Earl of Hereford, and the grant must therefore have been later than the forfeiture of William's son Roger in 1074. He attested a notification by William I between 1078 and 1087. On 30 March 1088 he witnessed a grant made by his man Ralph FitzAnser | De Mortimer, Ralph (I70270)
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| 493 | Ralph [de Toeni], usually called Ralph de Conches; participated in Norman invasion of England 1066; being accordingly granted lands in Berks, Essex, Glos, Herefs, Herts, Norfolk, and Worcs; married Elizabeth/Isabel, daughter of Simon de Montfort, Seigneur of Montfort l'Amaury, and died 24 March, probably 1101/2. [Burke's Peerage] ------------------------ RALPH DE TOENI III, styled more usually DE CONCHES, son and heir, by Godeheut, was born probably about 1025-30. He was banner-bearer of the Normans. In 1050 he was at the Duke's Court. In 1054 he took part in William's victory over the French at Mortemer and was sent by the Duke to alarm the King of France with the news. About 1060 Ralph, Hugh de Grandmesnil and Ernald d'Echauffour were deprived of their inheritance by the Duke and banished. In revenge Ernald and Ralph made incursions into Normandy and burnt the town of St. Evroul; but in 1063 they were recalled and their lands were restored. Ralph was one of the nobles summoned to a council when the Duke heard of the death of Edward the Confessor and the coronation of Harold; and he took part in the invasion of England and fought at the Battle of Hastings. At some time between the battle and the Domesday survey in 1086 the Conqueror gave him estates in the counties of Berks, Essex, Gloucester, Hereford, Herts, Norfolk and Worcester, with the castle of Clifford, co. Hereford, which had been built on waste land by William FitzOsbern, 1st Earl of Hereford; but his caput baroniae was at Flamstead, Herts. Before 30 November 1074 he assented to the Bishop of Bayeux's purchase of land from his tenant Herbert de Agnellis. About 1078 he supported Robert Courtheuse against the King. Probably about 1080 he went on a pilgrimage to Spain; and on his safe return, as he had promised, he made gifts to the abbey of St. Evroul, in recompense for having helped Ernald d'Echauffour to burn the town. In 1081 he was with the King at Winchester. After William's death in 1087 he was one of the Norman nobles who expelled the royal garrisons from their castles. In 1088 he served under Duke Robert in the war against Maine. His wife Isabel having angered her sister-in-law Hawise, wife of her brother William, Count of Evreux, the Countess induced her husband to attack Ralph. He appealed in vain to the Duke for help; he then sent envoys to William Rufus, who ordered his adherents in Normandy to go to Ralph's aid. In Nov. the Count of Evreux besieged Conches, but his forces were defeated soon afterwards; and after 3 years of fighting peace was concluded. When Rufus and his brother made peace in 1091, the Duke granted to the King all the land of Gerard de Gournay and Ralph de Conches; after which Ralph remained one of the King's strongest supporters. After the death of Rufus, Ralph and the Count of Evreux invaded the Count of Meulan's barony of Beaumont in Aug 1100, in revenge for his having prejudiced the late King against them. Ralph was a benefactor to the abbeys of St. Evroul, l'Estree, Conches, Croix-Saint-Leufroi, Lire, Jumieges, Bec, and St. Taurin, Evreux. He m. Isabel or Elizabeth, daughter of Simon de Montfort, Seigneur of MONTFORT L'AMAURY (France) (a), by his 1st wife, said to be Isabel, daughter of Hugh BARDOUL, SEIGNEUR OF BROZES. He died 24 March, probably in 1101/2, and was buried at Conches. Isabel, after a long widowhood, repenting of the fatal wantonness to which she had been too much addicted in her youth, took the veil at the priory of Haute-Bruy | De Toeni, Ralph III (I70908)
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| 494 | Ralph, called de Toeni or de Conches; married Margaret, daughter of Robert, 2nd Earl of Leicester of the post-Conquest creation made in favour of Robert's father Robert de Beaumont, and died 1162. [Burke's Peerage] ------------------------- RALPH DE TOENI V, styled also DE CONCHES, 1st son and heir, was with the Duke of Normandy (afterwards Henry II) at Le Lierru in the Forest of Conches in 1154 (April-December); and after Henry had ascended the throne he was with him at Bonneville-sur-Touques (1156-62). He survived his father. He married Margaret, daughter of Robert, 2nd EARL OF LEICESTER, by Amice, daughter of Ralph, SEIGNEUR OF GAEL AND MONTFORT in Brittany. He died in 1162. His widow had Walthamstow, Essex, in dower; and also held land at Pont-St.-Pierre and other places in Normandy. In 1185 she was said to be 60 years of age. [Complete Peerage XII/1:764-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] | Toeni, Ralph V De , Lord Of Flamstead (I70933)
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| 495 | Ralph, called either de Toeni or de Conches; married 1103 Alice, younger daughter of Waltheof, Earl of Northumberland, Northampton and Huntingdon, and died c1126. [Burke's Peerage] ------------------------ RALPH DE TOENI IV, styled also DE CONCHES, 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir, assented with his mother and his elder brother, Roger, to his father's gifts to St. Evroul. He succeeded his father probably in 1102; and in 1103 he was one of the nobles who supported the claim of Rainald de Grancei to succeed to the Barony of Breteuil on the death of William de Breteuil. In the same year he was a member of the alliance formed by Robert, Count of Meulan, to force Goel d'Ivri to release his burgher, John of Meulan. He then crossed to England and, being graciously received by the King, obtained his father's lands; and in 1104 he returned to Normandy with Henry, as one of his ardent supporters. He was in the King's army in Normandy in 1106 and took part in the battle of Tinchebrai on 28 September. In 1110 he was with the King at Romsey. When rebellion broke out in Normandy in 1119, he remained faithful to Henry. About the same time by the King's advice Ralph de Gael gave him Pont-St.-Pierre and the whole valley of Pistres. In 1120 he was with Henry at Rouen. He was a benefactor to the abbeys of Bec and Conches, and perhaps to the priory of Westacre. He married, in 1103, in England, Alice, younger daughter and coheir of Waltheof, EARL OF NORTHUMBERLAND, NORTHAMPTON and HUNTINGDON, by Judith (the King's cousin), daughter of Lambert, COUNT OF LENS. Alice inherited Walthamstow, Essex. Ralph died about 1126 and was buried at Conches. His widow gave the church of Walthamstow to Holy Trinity, London, for the salvation of the souls of her son Hugh, who was buried there, and her husband. [Complete Peerage XII/1:760-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] | De Toeni, Ralph IV (I70910)
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| 496 | Ralph/Rodulf de Toeni; feudal Lord also of Conches; custodian with his son of Castle of Tillieres from 1013 to 1014; took part in Norman expedition to Southern Italy c1015. [Burke's Peerage] ----------------------- RALPH (or RODULF) DE TOENI II, son and heir, was born probably before 970, for in 1013 or 1014 the Duke of Normandy, having founded the castle of Tilli | Toeni, Ralph II Seigneur De , Lord Of Conches (I70906)
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| 497 | Randolph de Limesay or limesis, founder of Hertford Priory and a tenant-in-chief of large estates 1086; the name de Limesay/Limesis derives from a fief near Caux in Normandy and those who bore it were allegedly cadets of the house of To(s)ny, legitiimate heirs male of the Dukes of Normandy. [Burke's Peerage] | De Limesay, Randolph (I70200)
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| 498 | RANULF the Moneyer, whose antecedents are unknown, first appears in 1035 when, Robert I of Normandy having died on his way home from Jerusalem, the Abbot of Le Mont St. Michel sold to Ranulf the mill of Vains which the Duke had given to the Abbey. At a later but uncertain date he witnessed, as Ranulf the Moneyer, with his son Osbern, a charter of Roger, son of Hugh, bishop of Coutances, for the Abbey of St. Amand, Rouen. He was dead in 1061. He had 4 sons, whose order of birth is doubtful. [Complete Peerage XII/2:268-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] | Moneyer, Ranulf The (I71293)
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| 499 | Ranulf was s. by his son William, whose son and successor was Thomas de Greystoke. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd, London, 1883, p. 254, Greystock, Barons Greystock] | Greystoke, William De , Sir (I70359)
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| 500 | Ranulph III le Meschin, de Briquessart, d. c 1129, buried St Werburg's, Chester, lord of Cumberland, vicomte of Bayeux in Normandy, Earl of Chester in 1120, following the death of his first cousin Hugh d'Avranches, Earl of Chester; in 1124 commander of the Royal Forces in Normandy; m. probably c 1098 Lucy, living 1130, widow susscessively, of Ives Taillebois and Roger Fitz Gerold. [Ancestral Roots] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ----------- EARLDOM OF CHESTER (IV, 1) RANULPH LE MESCHIN (a), styled, also, "DE BRIQUESSART," VICOMTE DE BAYEUX in Normandy, son and heir of Ranulph, VICOMTE DE BAYEUX, by Margaret, sister of Hugh (D'AVRANCHES), EARL OF CHESTER, being thus 1st cousin and heir to the last Earl (whom he succeeded as VICOMTE D'AVRANCHES) &C.) in Normandy), obtained, after the Earl's death in 1120, the grant of the county palatine of Chester becoming thereby EARL OF CHESTER. He appears thereupon to have surrendered the Lordship of the great district of Cumberland, which he had acquired, shortly before, from Henry I. In 1124 he was Commander of the Royal forces in Normandy. He married Lucy, widow of Roger FITZ-GEROLD (by whom she was mother of William de Roumare, afterwards Earl of Lincoln). He died 17 or 27 January 1128/9, and was buried at St. Werburg's, Chester. The Countess Lucy confirmed, as his widow, the grant of the Manor of Spalding to the monks of that place (f). [Complete Peerage III:166, XIV:170, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] (a) ie. "The young" from the Latin "Mischinus"; French "Meschin" (Le Jeune). "Apud Francos mediae aetatis scriptores sumitur vox "Meschin" pro adolescente et juvenculo." Ducange. (f) She paid 500 marks to King Henry in 1130 for license to remain unmarried for 5 years. Note: The name should be "le" instead of "de" Meschin because "de" implies a place that the person was from, which is not the case here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------- Ranulf or Randle de Meschines, surnamed de Bricasard, Viscount Bayeux, in Normandy, (son of Ralph de Meschines, by Maud, his wife, co-heir of her brother, Hugh Lupus, the celebrated Earl of Chester), was given by King Henry I the Earldom of Chester, at the decease of his 1st cousin, Richard de Abrincis, 2nd Earl of Chester, of that family, without issue. By some historians, this nobleman is styled Earl of Carlisle, from residing in that city; and they further state that he came over in the train of the Conqueror, assisted in the subjugation of England, and shared, of course, in the spoil of conquest. He was lord of Cumberland and Carlisle, by descent from his father, but having enfeoffed his two brothers, William, of Coupland, and Geffrey, of Gillesland, in a large portion thereof, he exchanged the Earldom of Cumberland for that of Chester, on condition that those whom he had settled there should hold their lands of the king, in capite. His lordship m. Lucia, widow of Roger de Romara, Earl of Lincoln, and dau. of Algar, the Saxon, Earl of Mercia, and had issue, Ranulph, his successor; William, styled Earl of Cambridge, but of his issue nothing in known; Adeliza, m. to Richard Fitz-Gilbert, ancestor of the old Earls of Clare; and Agnes, m. to Robert de Grentemaisnil. The earl d. in 1128 and was s. by his elder son, Ranulph de Meschines. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages,. Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 365, Meschines, Earls of Chester] | Of Chester, 3rd Earl Ranulph (I54853)
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